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You sound like someone who has a very stable and spacious office. Have you considered that "having more desk space than there is space in the room" is the kille
by derefr 3y ago
You sound like someone who has a very stable and spacious office. Have you considered that "having more desk space than there is space in the room" is the killer app for many (wealthy!) people who either 1. travel a lot, or 2. live in countries like Hong Kong where space is at a premium?
- dangwhy 3y agoThat seems like such a narrow subset.
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- Retric 3y agoHow about everyone taking a long flight or just staying at a hotel etc? That IMO is where VR glasses are actually a pretty good fit. Carry lightweight laptop through the airport and still get to use a 32” monitor on the go. Granted the current hardware not exactly ideal, but it’s close enough to be a reasonable option.
- usrusr 3y agoDon't underestimate the unwieldy shape of these headsets, they aren't very bag-friendly. The Apple design seems to do some compromises to decrease bulk but it still won't nicely slip between other stuff. Portable displays on the other hand, they are wildly underappreciated because so many still haven't the slightest idea that product category exists. They offer a very favorable bulk/utility trade-off and allow day on day scaling between the extremes of the smallest laptop you can find and what could be considered a mobile workstation.
- Retric 3y agoThese devices are currently bulky, but you can easily but them and a a bunch of other stuff into an under seat airline bag. The weight and volume is annoying but not a dealbreaker. Also, I think we can all agree the form factor is likely to improve over time. Portable displays meanwhile have inherent limitations in use ie an airline seat.
- worldsayshi 3y agoYeah, getting a more flexible work environment seems like the only non-gimmicky selling point here. But there are much cheaper and lighter devices for that. Like NReal Air. (Haven't tried it but reviewers seem fairly happy)
- fomine3 3y agoNreal Air is good for resolution but bad for view angle. It's not for monitor alternative use.
- RajT88 3y agoThank you. I was hoping for some testimonial on this use case, since the price and features are pretty attractive for the air. I will now wait for a future revision.
- chadrs 3y agoFor working, it's not as good as an actual monitor but much easier to travel with. Really shines for games/movies though.
- worldsayshi 3y agoThat's a bummer. I'd really like to not be dependent on additional displays or bending my neck all the time.
- matt-attack 3y agoI feel like an 13" MacBook Air is the ultimate in flexible work environments. Incredibly light, powerful, goes anywhere, long lasting battery. Perhaps I'm just a philistine and haven't yet gotten a taste of the new world yet...
- chasd00 3y agoI make it a point to do all my work on a laptop like this. That way, I’m 100% productive anywhere like in a hotel for example. I never miss giant external monitors because I don’t have any.
- atchoo 3y agoLike the OP, I found I was more efficient/comfortable on a single screen compared to the 3 or 4 I have had at one point. Now in my 40s, I find myself more comfortable on a 13" laptop compared to a 34" screen. It's just easier to concentrate. IMHO ideal computer use is to move things in front of your eyes instead of moving your eyes/head. Your area of focus is quite small with almost no value to filling your peripheral vision.
- samplatt 3y ago39 here, but I really cannot imagine ever leaving my triple-screen [tie-fighter](https://i.imgur.com/DkqkER7.jpeg)-style https://i.imgur.com/DkqkER7.jpeg)-style setup, unless it was for an unlimited number of unlimited-resolution screens. If I could have one screen per application and surround myself in a galaxy of windows, I definitely would. Would I look at them all on a regular basis? Of course not. 80% of them I would only look at once every hour or so.
- tempnow987 3y agoI'm a fan of two monitors, my main horizontal (though I got one with much more vertical resolution than most 4:3), and one in portrait somewhat to the side. So many big wins. I can do a zoom screen share on my main window and have notes, private stuff on the side window, I can read documents that often are vertically formatted on the side window. I do a fair bit of comparing type work where I need a reference index doc on the side, then I got through the individual docs for tieback on the main. It's game changing to have multiple monitors and particularly have one portrait and one vertical.
- daveFNbuck 3y ago39 here too, and not turning my neck all the time to look at multiple monitors anymore has helped save me a lot of pain.
- cjohnson318 3y agoI hear you, I'm 38. I've been using a 14-in screen for the last ten years. Clients will ask why I don't use more monitors, but I can really only focus on one thing at a time, and my field of vision isn't that big. If I need to look at another screen, I just three-finger swipe.
- btown 3y agoThe travel point is a legitimate one. This is less a device to look at code, and more a device to look at people and presentations. Practically every Fortune 500 executive will have one of these because they'll be able to immerse themselves while jetting around the world - neither limited to a laptop screen, nor to a cartoon environment where people don't have legs, but in a truly effective war room that interleaves live video conversations, presentations, dashboards/visualizations, and their physical travel companions. Or, at least, they'll want the ability to brag to their peers that they can do these things! It's the Apple playbook, and it will create a tremendous amount of envy. If it's at a price that's profitable, it can sustainably anchor their reputation even if it never goes mainstream.
- aarkling 3y ago> Practically every Fortune 500 executive will have one of these Even if that's true, that's only like ~50k people lol.
- fragmede 3y agoI mean if every single one of them buy only one of them, that's only $175 million dollars right there. Totally not worth it for Apple to bother even trying
- DrBenCarson 3y agoHave you considered this is a beta product for the cheaper mass market versions coming in 1-2 years?
- IOT_Apprentice 3y agoApple's first year sales of their watch was a failure with 10 million units sold instead of the projected 40 million. Apple now has 34% of global market share. Now remember Steve Ballmer laughing at it. It is not the 1st generation of most of their products, but the follow ons. I'll wait to see what the first months of hands on reviews and perhaps a personal demo. How heavy is that headset and how long is the battery life (I thought I saw 2 hours)? Time will tell.
- bored_itworker 3y agoIf you can afford a USD$3500 headset and live in HK, you are already wealthy and have a large apartment. Avg income here is around $2000/mo.
- tragicfootball 3y agoHongkonger here. Lot of people can spend USD$3500 for a watch, gadget, or computer, AND still live in 200-300sqft apartments in HK. Doesn't make them "wealthy".
- taeric 3y agoI don't know any world where spending that much in gadgets isn't for the wealthy. Yes, there are richer people out there. That is still a lot of money.
- Rufbdbskrufb473 3y agoIt's really not. Growing up, I had plenty of classmates who spent more than that on superficial car modifications while working a minimum wage job and whose family was on food stamps.
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- taeric 3y agoIn one shot? That feels wrong. And is a poverty trap. :(
- throwaway049 3y agoLots of people on modest incomes buy gadgets on credit.
- taeric 3y agoHaving a 3k+ credit limit isn't that common, is it? And I don't know any consideration of the topic that doesn't treat credit cards as a problem/bad idea. Especially at that level.
- NBJack 3y agoThe resolution might be sufficient, but all of my attempts across quite a few VR headsets has been sad when it comes to text. The crispness you really need is possible on static glasses (i.e. Nreal Air), but all of the anti aliasing on projected textures has often made long term work in VR hard for me. But the displays are pretty high res. Guess we'll see.
- swiftcoder 3y agoCrisp text is also Apple's bread-and-butter. They've been typography nerds since the 80s, I've long assumed that their headset is this late to the game because they needed display technology to catch up to text rendering in VR
- scarface_74 3y agoMy wife and I literally live out of 4 suitcases. We “nomad” 7 months out of the year and when we are “home” for five months, we still can’t accumulate anything that we can’t take with us since our condotel [1] unit that we own gets rented out when we aren’t there. But I still have plenty of screen real estate that I can set out at my desk at home or in a hotel room between my 16 inch MacBook, my 17 inch USB powered/USB video portable external display and my iPad as a third monitor. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condo_hotel https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condo_hotel