This whole conversation stems from an article about the excessive cost of putting parking _everywhere_, and acknowledging that while the desire to have a car an

This whole conversation stems from an article about the excessive cost of putting parking _everywhere_, and acknowledging that while the desire to have a car and to want a place to park it is reasonable, that policy decisions fixating on that create costs for _everyone_. The article specifically mentions how in LA after the 1960s it was infeasible to develop medium-sized housing projects because of the parking minimum requirements. And planning specifically means that a lot of property owners were blocked from building higher density on their property. I.e. the car-centric and suburbanite central planners won, have been in control for decades, and their policies actively exacerbate the housing shortage even in urban markets. In that context, it's absurd for you to act like suburbanites are the brow-beaten victims of city-dwellers telling you how to live. People living in the city who don't own cars are paying higher housing costs because of planing policies that demand that developers build more parking, or disallow multi-unit projects. It's the car-folk who are telling everyone else how to live, and have been for decades. The city-residents are also subsidizing the road construction and maintenance and the less efficient emergency services for suburbs in our counties, and the whole planet has to deal with the higher carbon footprint. For you to frame this as all about individuals just happening to prefer driving and living in suburbs is disingenuous when the policy problems are _all about_ car-centric policies _forcing_ unnecessary constraints onto people. The LA guy in the article that wanted to open a deli but spent 6 figures and multiple years blocked over showing that he was meeting the parking requirements, and then giving up -- why is his desire to open a business less important than your desire to drive and have ample parking wherever you go? Suburban drivers are not the victims here; they are the problem.