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I will happily go on the record as saying that this will be as revolutionary as the Apple TV. Perhaps even less so (if such a thing is possible).
by alexb_ 3y ago
I will happily go on the record as saying that this will be as revolutionary as the Apple TV. Perhaps even less so (if such a thing is possible).
- fsloth 3y agoApple TV is excellent? Is there a better device? (If you don’t want to use the apps bundled with tv).
- mryingster 3y agoUnironically, the Apple TV is my favorite Apple device. It does exactly what it says it does, is inexpensive, and has a good interface. It just works.
- jw1224 3y agoFully agree! Their "hobby" has turned into possibly the best experience in their lineup (from a UX perspective).
- ghaff 3y agoIt's sort of evolved to the "What's that Chromecast thing again?" for me. (Which I thought was super-underrated.) And I guess I could maybe upgrade my big TV which would be an absolute hassle and is perfectly good for my purposes--and might not even be better at this point. Not a frequently in my hand thing but for ~$100 and really nice, perfectly good.
- moelf 3y agoApple TV is one of those apple devices you can't use unless you're "apple enough" -- you can't even set it up without having an iOS device to do 2FA.
- khazhoux 3y agoCorrect. Apple products are really not meant to be used as one-offs if you are otherwise in Android/whatever ecosystem.
- KptMarchewa 3y agoI'm happily using macbook, and would not use it if it required me to use ios or any other device.
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- pmontra 3y agoApple TV is inexpensive and you hide it close to the TV. This one costs more than $3000 and you have to wear it on your face all the time. Masks work well only when we're alone or if everybody is wearing one. If not, they use to cancel the wearer from social interactions.
- schappim 3y agoI think that is what they’re trying to achieve with the avatar and oled eyesight display. The jury is out.
- ra7 3y agoAnd after years of neglect, they brought the one feature I really wanted in the Apple TV — ability to do FaceTime calls on the big screen.
- thefourthchime 3y agoAnd most importantly, they're not selling you with tracking or ads. You bought a thing, you get a thing. No BS. besides that, the apps all work and have fewer bugs, unlike everything else I've used like it.
- Exuma 3y agoYou are high as a kite. AppleTV is one of the greatest things in my househould. The UI is world's beyond whatever ad-filled garbage "smartOS" my TV uses.
- adamwk 3y agoSomehow it's still the only smart TV with < 1s input delay
- shadowgovt 3y agoTrue, but that bar is so low that you need a metal detector to find it.
- Xerox9213 3y ago[dead]
- Taywee 3y agoIt's hard to find a UI worse than that of your average Smart TV. They're in a league of their own when it comes to spectacularly terrible UIs.
- dunham 3y agoHow about pre-iphone cell phones? It's been a while, but I remember them having specularly bad UI and cheering Apple's entry on that point alone.
- civilitty 3y agoUsing a product I already paid for without getting served any ads is pretty revolutionary /s
- basisword 3y agoApple TV is easily my favourite Apple product. Of all the Apple products it's the one that works flawlessly and gets out of my way. I could give up my Mac and switch to Windows before I would switch to an Apple TV competitor.
- pipeline_peak 3y ago> Apple TV is easily my favourite Apple product It’s a great Apple product for people who already own Apple products. It’s like filling your tire with a Mercedes branded pump.
- rstupek 3y agoThat's not at all true. It works just fine without owning any other Apple product. How do you think it requires you own an Apple product?
- pipeline_peak 3y agoCan you use Netflix, Hulu, etc with it through Android? Or are you stuck with that wimpy remote that looks like a 1st gen ipod shuffle? If that's true, I'll admit you can use it, but that is a painful, dated experience. "click left, click up, click up, click left"
- twobitshifter 3y agoYou should try the remote, it’s blazingly fast and makes any other TV feel like junk. You just swipe no clicking needed. If you need to type there’s voice to text built in to the remote to either say or spell what you want.
- rstupek 3y agoYes you can use all of those with the included remote which is easy to use and quite responsive. And all of them (minus Netflix) surface the shows you're watching up to "watch now" so you don't have to dig into any of them to continue watch your shows. I'm not aware of any use of an iphone which makes using the Apple TV easier.
- mensetmanusman 3y agoAre you including the remote which, for free, comes with no mute button?
- ddoolin 3y agoIf you're referring to the Apple TV remote, it does have a dedicated mute button.
- timcederman 3y agoThe mute button on the bottom left? https://store.storeimages.cdn-apple.com/4982/as-images.apple.com/is/MNC73?wid=1144&hei=1144&fmt=jpeg&qlt=90&.v=1664836189752 https://store.storeimages.cdn-apple.com/4982/as-images.apple...
- mensetmanusman 3y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siri_Remote#/media/File%3AApple_tv_gen_4_remote.jpeg https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siri_Remote#/media/File%3AAp... Where on this popular one?
- seanmcdirmid 3y agoNo wireless. Less pixels than an 8K TV. Lame.
- jonwinstanley 3y agoApple TV is great, I’ve bought a few over the years
- Philip-J-Fry 3y agoI used to think Apple TV was unimpressive. I had an Android TV which turned to shit after like 3 years. Apple TV though? Runs like a dream, still gets updates, has nice integrations with my iPhone. It's one of the best "plug and play" Apple devices there is. It "just works". I went from finding it unimpressive to it being my first recommendation for anyone getting a TV. Screw regular smart TV software, just get the TV with the best panel and use Apple TV. So long as the TV doesn't break, you won't need to upgrade for a long long time.
- deadmutex 3y agoWere they same price though? E.g. I won't compare a Lucid to a Corolla. Fwiw, my Google TV runs well too.
- microtonal 3y agoWe have a two month old high-end Sony TV with Google TV and a second gen 4k Apple TV. They are not really comparable. The Apple TV is super smooth and has great apps. The Google TV, in comparison, is clunky, the apps are meh, and you have to wait ages for major OS updates (while investing TVs, I looked at historical OS updates). Heck even a new TV is on a two year old OS with months old security updates. But the Apple TV really shines with the integration in the Apple ecosystem. AirPlay, SharePlay, AirPods, HomePod, Apple Music, Apple Arcade, etc. the integration is fantastic.
- nerdix 3y agoThat's still a bad comparison. You should be comparing a comparably priced stand alone device to the AppleTV. The built-in OS is never as good as decent stand alone devices even on $3000 TVs.
- rafael_c 3y agoHave you tried Chromecast 4k, though? I’ve bought one, as my LG TV’s webOS became so sluggish that it became pretty much unusable. I have an Apple TV 4k in the living room and it’s great, but I find myself drawn to the Chromecast experience way more. Apple TV is more refined, but Chromecast’s remote is far better than ATV’s (1st gen, at least) and Google’s voice assistant is obviously far smarter (especially if you’re multilingual).
- jejeyyy77 3y agolol, except the Apple TV is awesome...?
- Apocryphon 3y agoSet top boxes are a dime a dozen. A $50 Roku stick can serve the purposes of a vast majority of TV watchers.
- twobitshifter 3y agoIt serves the purpose but h2h Apple TV is way better.
- jejeyyy77 3y agoAppleTV is a must if you own any Apple devices for the seamless airplay alone.
- m3kw9 3y agoSeriously? You still stuck in the 2d world!
- mithr 3y agoI wouldn't really make a statement like the above, and I can't say I necessarily agree with it... that being said, other folks on this thread are kinda missing the point OP made: it's not that Apple TV isn't good. It's that it isn't, and never really was, revolutionary. It's an arguably best-in-class app-based TV watching experience. But its market share is pretty small years after launch, it hasn't caused much change/adaptation in the market as a whole as a result of existing, and it's not really at the center of any kind of cultural conversation. I am really curious to learn more details about Vision Pro (like... how much does it weigh?), and would be even more curious to learn about the market fit research Apple must have done to believe there's a place for this device, especially at this price point. The biggest omission for me was the placement of the headset as device on which to view movies, and see pictures of your kids, while at the same time completely sidestepping the question of how you'd do that together with your family, which is how these activities are typically performed in a household with children.
- stocknoob 3y agoOnce people get an AppleTV, do they go back to a chromcast/roku/firestick/media pc? It has a higher MSRP than the others, but once you get one…