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<vent> Ah, the classic "California Corporate" style of speaking: Q: Yes or no question about a specific case? A: Four sentences of condescending and

<vent> Ah, the classic "California Corporate" style of speaking: Q: Yes or no question about a specific case? A: Four sentences of condescending and convoluted explanation about how the rules work for the entire system, while simultaneously refusing to give a clear "yes" or "no" to the specific case being asked about. It seems passive-aggressive to demand that every single reader piece together the logic of their "labs" and "campaigns" and "badges" to figure out if a given course is free or not. I'm all for shipping early and often, but it does feel like adding 2 if statements would have made the whole pricing answer about 100x more user-friendly. </vent>

stonekyx 3y ago
Because people too often jump to conclusions on hearing yes/no, imo. Not trying to defend the corporate speak though, obviously they should have put the yes/no up front and then try to explain later.
resolutebat 3y ago
It's not that complicated. "Courses" are canned, one-way training material (comparison: books, lectures) that usually cost nothing. "Labs" are interactive exercises that require spinning up resources for each user (comparison: science labs with chemicals and beakers) so they usually cost something.
- Cockbrand 3y ago
  Yes, as a Qwiklabs user, you know this. But it is quite hard to decipher if you haven’t used the platform before. I agree with the GP that the current wording poses an unnecessary cognitive burden and should be more clear. Nothing wrong with e.g. “Mainly yes, but you’ll have to spend a few bucks on the hands-on labs”
  - baobabKoodaa 3y ago
    Even after reading these comments I still don't know if the course is free or not. Either they charge for the labs, or the labs are free but require access to GCP resources. I still don't know which.
    - Cockbrand 3y ago
      Fair point. The non-interactive parts are free. There are very few labs which require the purchase of credits. The labs are plug & play with all required resources provided (and deleted afterwards), so you don’t need an own GCP account.
zerop 3y ago
I will ask chatGPT to respond in "California Corporate" style, to know it more.
RonnieOwnsLexus 3y ago
I think this is standard corporate speak. Even in office my colleagues give long prose for just yes or no.

stonekyx 3y ago

Because people too often jump to conclusions on hearing yes/no, imo. Not trying to defend the corporate speak though, obviously they should have put the yes/no up front and then try to explain later.

resolutebat 3y ago

It's not that complicated. "Courses" are canned, one-way training material (comparison: books, lectures) that usually cost nothing. "Labs" are interactive exercises that require spinning up resources for each user (comparison: science labs with chemicals and beakers) so they usually cost something.

Cockbrand 3y ago
Yes, as a Qwiklabs user, you know this. But it is quite hard to decipher if you haven’t used the platform before. I agree with the GP that the current wording poses an unnecessary cognitive burden and should be more clear. Nothing wrong with e.g. “Mainly yes, but you’ll have to spend a few bucks on the hands-on labs”
- baobabKoodaa 3y ago
  Even after reading these comments I still don't know if the course is free or not. Either they charge for the labs, or the labs are free but require access to GCP resources. I still don't know which.
  - Cockbrand 3y ago
    Fair point. The non-interactive parts are free. There are very few labs which require the purchase of credits. The labs are plug & play with all required resources provided (and deleted afterwards), so you don’t need an own GCP account.

zerop 3y ago

I will ask chatGPT to respond in "California Corporate" style, to know it more.

RonnieOwnsLexus 3y ago

I think this is standard corporate speak. Even in office my colleagues give long prose for just yes or no.