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> In 2018, the city created a pooper scooper team, each member of which received annual compensation of about $211,000 that year. Given the inflation that has o
by dilippkumar 3y ago
> In 2018, the city created a pooper scooper team, each member of which received annual compensation of about $211,000 that year. Given the inflation that has occurred since that time, scooper compensation may be close to $250,000 per year today.
I needed to read this to convince myself that I’m not asking for or expecting outrageous compensation at work.
- vlovich123 3y agoThis is grift masquerading as public services.
- ryanSrich 3y agoThat’s actually more than several engineers I know who work in the bay. What a wild wild city SF is (and not in a good way).
- Rebelgecko 3y agoKeep in mind that figure includes health insurance, retirement contributions, payroll taxes, etc. They might only be making $100k per year, which is nice but not enough to ball out in SF
- snotrockets 3y ago$71k (see https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-poop-patrol-employees-make-184000-a-year-2018-8 https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-poop-patrol-em...)
- Rebelgecko 3y agoYup, looks like even in 2022 their salaries are <$100k: https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?q=Sewer%20Maintenance%20Worker&y=2022&a=san-francisco https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?q=Sewer%2...
- StrangeATractor 3y agoI mean, you could be picking up human shit instead.
- SV_BubbleTime 3y ago[flagged]
- pkdpic 3y agobased on the salary I kind of assumed that was part if it... come to think of it Ive technically picked up more human turds than dog turds on my hobbiest-level neighborhood cleanup efforts in the wider bay area... but Ive spent infinitely more time and energy cleaning up garbage and abandoned furniture from encampments... :shrug:
- silisili 3y agoI dunno, I get the skilled vs unskilled thing, but I'd take a haircut on pay to not have to walk around looking for poop to pick up...
- noisy_boy 3y agoI dunno, I would rather take the job security instead of the constant threat of downsizing letter from CEO proclaiming what an incredibly difficult decision it has been while planning their next luxury holiday in the Mediterranean.
- silisili 3y agoFair point, but those jobs are also just one admin change away from someone changing the pay to a more realistic rate of 20 something an hour.
- selectodude 3y agoI already do it for free. $200k to be able to hang out outside with a pooper scooper all day sounds like paradise.
- tsunamifury 3y agoThis is a bit misleading on purpose. The city reports the total cost of the role, not the pay. Many tech roles total cost is more than 1.5x-2x their salaries.
- rahimnathwani 3y agoThey're not quoting the total cost of the role. They're quoting total compensation. What tech roles provide defined benefit pension schemes?
- swarnie 3y agoI often describe myself as a digital janitor clearing up poop all day. Where do i sign up for £170k a year?
- snotrockets 3y agoThat number, of course, is made up. The real paycheck for the scoopers is ~$71k: "As members of the city's "Poop Patrol," workers are entitled to $71,760 a year, plus an additional $112,918 in benefits, such as healthcare and retirement savings, the San Francisco Chronicle reported." (https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-poop-patrol-employees-make-184000-a-year-2018-8 https://www.businessinsider.com/san-francisco-poop-patrol-em...) Want to reduce that cost further? Nationalize health care and increase social security.
- yowzadave 3y agoI don’t understand—don’t benefits typically make up around 30% of all compensation in the US? Why are the insurance/retirement costs so high in this particular case?
- Rebelgecko 3y agoDepends on the job, but in my experience no, it's closer to 50%. In general, government jobs have even better insurance and retirement benefits than a "regular" job. CALPRS requires retirement contributions in the neighborhood of 30% of salary
- anonymouskimmer 3y agoIf this is CalPERS, CalPERS is about 70% funded. Which means that a huge chunk of the $112k in "benefits" for these workers is actually being used to compensate for pension fund deficits for prior employees. In no actual way are these 'top-up' funds actually a benefit for the new pooper-scooper employees who are technically getting credited with the "benefit" as part of their total compensation. Among benefits I think only pensions are averaged across all employees in this way. Even health care insurance varies based on which of the insurance options an individual employee picks. And payroll taxes (social security, at least) cap out somewhere in the low 6 figures.
- vlovich123 3y agoThis is 160% though. Something is off.
- varenc 3y agoRelatedly, I run a Twitter bot that tweets every time a poop is reported to the city: https://twitter.com/poopscoopsf https://twitter.com/poopscoopsf (After many years of running, the bot seems broken. Not sure if I’ll fix it this time.)
- rcpt 3y agoThat's a tough follow
- thelastgallon 3y agoIt’s a dirty job, just like any other tech job, where you have to clean up the previous guys mess. Except, in the tech world, the mess-makers make out like bandits, go on to become directors, senior directors, vice presidents, etc. The ability to make messes is highly rewarded.