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That is explicitly not what they argued for and is a misrepresentation of ‘focused protection.’ Plus, wouldn’t a reasonable critique not matter who wrote it?

Slava_Propanei 3y ago
Critiques of Regime Thought come from non-approved sources.
SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
> Plus, wouldn’t a reasonable critique not matter who wrote it? Of course, but one problem with scientific critiques like this is that they are written towards laymen (this is on Twitter) who probably don’t have the understanding of whether a critique is reasonable or not. So the identity of the person who is performing the critique does have value in that context. In a true peer review scenario it shouldn’t be that way, scientific critiques should be evaluated on their merits alone.
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- superooled 3y ago
  This is also an excellent argument for why we should not unthinkingly trust statements from governments, given the tools of social manipulation they have available.
Spivak 3y ago
The declaration is only a few paragraphs long and most of it is filler. The meat of the plan is let covid rip through the population, anything else misrepresents the goal of herd immunity. You can't build up natural immunity without transmission. The biggest flaw with this plan was that you can get infected with the now large family of viruses grouped into "covid" more than once. People don't actually build up as much immunity as the declaration presumes. The second biggest flaw was that there is zero chance you could protect only the high-risk populations. In the US the plan ended up being basically this but s/virus/vaccine/ because the vaccine gave stronger guarantees on avoiding transmission to high-risk groups but then that got weirdly political for some reason. If it was smallpox I bet those same people would have been breaking down the door for an "experimental" vaccine.
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- nradov 3y ago
  That is medical misinformation. While reinfections do occur, symptoms are typically less severe. Recovered patients retain a substantial level of immunity, even against newer variants. https://peterattiamd.com/covid-part2/ https://peterattiamd.com/covid-part2/ The mRNA vaccines used in the USA are very effective at preventing severe symptoms. However they have only limited and temporary benefit in reducing transmission.

Slava_Propanei 3y ago

Critiques of Regime Thought come from non-approved sources.

SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago

> Plus, wouldn’t a reasonable critique not matter who wrote it? Of course, but one problem with scientific critiques like this is that they are written towards laymen (this is on Twitter) who probably don’t have the understanding of whether a critique is reasonable or not. So the identity of the person who is performing the critique does have value in that context. In a true peer review scenario it shouldn’t be that way, scientific critiques should be evaluated on their merits alone.

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superooled 3y ago
This is also an excellent argument for why we should not unthinkingly trust statements from governments, given the tools of social manipulation they have available.

Spivak 3y ago

The declaration is only a few paragraphs long and most of it is filler. The meat of the plan is let covid rip through the population, anything else misrepresents the goal of herd immunity. You can't build up natural immunity without transmission. The biggest flaw with this plan was that you can get infected with the now large family of viruses grouped into "covid" more than once. People don't actually build up as much immunity as the declaration presumes. The second biggest flaw was that there is zero chance you could protect only the high-risk populations. In the US the plan ended up being basically this but s/virus/vaccine/ because the vaccine gave stronger guarantees on avoiding transmission to high-risk groups but then that got weirdly political for some reason. If it was smallpox I bet those same people would have been breaking down the door for an "experimental" vaccine.

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nradov 3y ago
That is medical misinformation. While reinfections do occur, symptoms are typically less severe. Recovered patients retain a substantial level of immunity, even against newer variants. https://peterattiamd.com/covid-part2/ https://peterattiamd.com/covid-part2/ The mRNA vaccines used in the USA are very effective at preventing severe symptoms. However they have only limited and temporary benefit in reducing transmission.