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Humans have 0.2s response time. It’s astoundingly good. I’m in robotics and our pipeline time is nowhere remotely near 0.2s.

marcosdumay 3y ago
Well, not for anything complex. We can't even compensate some unexpected steering in 0.2s, while robots can do that in some µs.
- gary_0 3y ago
  If you're measuring a human in front a screen with their finger on a button, and the human is young, healthy, and fully alert, then you get 0.2s. Some electronic safety systems[0] can indeed physically respond in µs. Some robotics might have lag due to mechanical slack or software/processing limitations, but that can always be improved. Whereas humans are never going to do better than 0.2s and will usually do much worse, especially if they have to turn their head, focus their eyes, and manipulate physical controls. [0]for example: https://youtu.be/ynEdke5dzIU?t=10 https://youtu.be/ynEdke5dzIU?t=10
  - openweb 3y ago
    (Sub-elite) sprinters average a response time of 119ms https://www.basvanhooren.com/is-it-possible-to-react-faster-than-100-ms-in-a-sprint-start/ https://www.basvanhooren.com/is-it-possible-to-react-faster-...
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gary_0 3y ago
I used to develop for CNC systems, and those responded to sensor trips within microseconds. The computers involved were realtime systems. If everything wasn't that fast, the machines would have demolished themselves. A human pulling a lever would have been 500,000x too slow.
- dghlsakjg 3y ago
  Robots beat humans at things like determining if a circuit has been completed (sensor trips), and following a predefined set of directions. Humans are far better at complex things like reacting appropriately to an unanticipated input (someone yelling stop, or honking a horn)
- Invictus0 3y ago
  You're comparing "read a binary flip" to "process millions of pixels into a high level understanding of the world and make a complicated decision"

marcosdumay 3y ago

Well, not for anything complex. We can't even compensate some unexpected steering in 0.2s, while robots can do that in some µs.

gary_0 3y ago
If you're measuring a human in front a screen with their finger on a button, and the human is young, healthy, and fully alert, then you get 0.2s. Some electronic safety systems[0] can indeed physically respond in µs. Some robotics might have lag due to mechanical slack or software/processing limitations, but that can always be improved. Whereas humans are never going to do better than 0.2s and will usually do much worse, especially if they have to turn their head, focus their eyes, and manipulate physical controls. [0]for example: https://youtu.be/ynEdke5dzIU?t=10 https://youtu.be/ynEdke5dzIU?t=10
- openweb 3y ago
  (Sub-elite) sprinters average a response time of 119ms https://www.basvanhooren.com/is-it-possible-to-react-faster-than-100-ms-in-a-sprint-start/ https://www.basvanhooren.com/is-it-possible-to-react-faster-...

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gary_0 3y ago

I used to develop for CNC systems, and those responded to sensor trips within microseconds. The computers involved were realtime systems. If everything wasn't that fast, the machines would have demolished themselves. A human pulling a lever would have been 500,000x too slow.

dghlsakjg 3y ago
Robots beat humans at things like determining if a circuit has been completed (sensor trips), and following a predefined set of directions. Humans are far better at complex things like reacting appropriately to an unanticipated input (someone yelling stop, or honking a horn)
Invictus0 3y ago
You're comparing "read a binary flip" to "process millions of pixels into a high level understanding of the world and make a complicated decision"