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The third-party apps predate the first-party even. Reddit had been a website only for years then bought the most popular iOS third-party client as a starting po

The third-party apps predate the first-party even. Reddit had been a website only for years then bought the most popular iOS third-party client as a starting point so like you said it's very much a rug-pull.

majormajor 3y ago
> then bought the most popular iOS third-party client as a starting point If you're ever in a situation where this happens, consider it you're big flashing warning sign about trying to run a competing offering! (Mac users of a certain age will remember Apple buying SoundJam MP.)
- deleted 3y ago
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- plorkyeran 3y ago
  Alien Blue was bought out nearly 9 years ago, so that wasn't actually a sign that bad things were coming soon for other third-party clients.
- alasarmas 3y ago
  I remember SoundJam MP very well, I still have the box somewhere. The box that I bought from some store in a strip mall on Route 1, maybe CompUSA? Circuit City? The Wiz? It came with a stereo RCA to 1/8th inch adapter cable, for digitizing audio files straight from your record player / cassette player. I also remember being bummed that iTunes never properly supported aliases [0] when running under Mac OS 9. And I remember Audion [1]. Heady days indeed! 0. https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/LanguagesUtilities/Conceptual/MacAutomationScriptingGuide/ReferenceFilesandFolders.html https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/La... 1. https://www.panic.com/extras/audionstory/ https://www.panic.com/extras/audionstory/
- garbagecoder 3y ago
  Mac users of a certain age will remember this happening several times and it almost always ended up being better when it was just built in. Reddit's app is garbo.
csallen 3y ago
This is why you don't build a business on top of someone else's rug.
- matwood 3y ago
  Businesses are almost always built on top of someone else. What you need to make sure of is that your financial interests are aligned.
  - User23 3y ago
    Which is to say have a contract that your counterparty can’t redefine freely.
    - rs999gti 3y ago
      Was there a contract or SLA for the free Reddit API? If not, then there isn't much to complain about
      - User23 3y ago
        The terms of service are the default contract. Presumably it has a we-can-screw-you-whenever clause, but sometimes the corporate lawyers screw up and you can actually get them for violating their own ToS.
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  Build your own rug before the rug pull comes.
  - djbusby 3y ago
    Its rugs all the way down!
- satvikpendem 3y ago
  Indeed, Courtland, and even on IndieHackers you see a lot of stories about platform risk, platforms which indie hackers often use to build a good product but always seem surprised that they got rugged, as if the previous X stories didn't show that it inevitably happens.

majormajor 3y ago

> then bought the most popular iOS third-party client as a starting point If you're ever in a situation where this happens, consider it you're big flashing warning sign about trying to run a competing offering! (Mac users of a certain age will remember Apple buying SoundJam MP.)

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plorkyeran 3y ago
Alien Blue was bought out nearly 9 years ago, so that wasn't actually a sign that bad things were coming soon for other third-party clients.
alasarmas 3y ago
I remember SoundJam MP very well, I still have the box somewhere. The box that I bought from some store in a strip mall on Route 1, maybe CompUSA? Circuit City? The Wiz? It came with a stereo RCA to 1/8th inch adapter cable, for digitizing audio files straight from your record player / cassette player. I also remember being bummed that iTunes never properly supported aliases [0] when running under Mac OS 9. And I remember Audion [1]. Heady days indeed! 0. https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/LanguagesUtilities/Conceptual/MacAutomationScriptingGuide/ReferenceFilesandFolders.html https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/La... 1. https://www.panic.com/extras/audionstory/ https://www.panic.com/extras/audionstory/
garbagecoder 3y ago
Mac users of a certain age will remember this happening several times and it almost always ended up being better when it was just built in. Reddit's app is garbo.

csallen 3y ago

This is why you don't build a business on top of someone else's rug.

matwood 3y ago
Businesses are almost always built on top of someone else. What you need to make sure of is that your financial interests are aligned.
- User23 3y ago
  Which is to say have a contract that your counterparty can’t redefine freely.
  - rs999gti 3y ago
    Was there a contract or SLA for the free Reddit API? If not, then there isn't much to complain about
    - User23 3y ago
      The terms of service are the default contract. Presumably it has a we-can-screw-you-whenever clause, but sometimes the corporate lawyers screw up and you can actually get them for violating their own ToS.
toomuchtodo 3y ago
Build your own rug before the rug pull comes.
- djbusby 3y ago
  Its rugs all the way down!
satvikpendem 3y ago
Indeed, Courtland, and even on IndieHackers you see a lot of stories about platform risk, platforms which indie hackers often use to build a good product but always seem surprised that they got rugged, as if the previous X stories didn't show that it inevitably happens.