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Homeowners outfit their properties with cold plunges
- goda90 3y agoWhy not just put ice in a bath tub?
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- EscapeFromNY 3y agoThen you couldn't get the WSJ to write a puff piece about how challenging your life is
- theGnuMe 3y agoYou can and people do but if you keep going you may want it to be colder and then ice won't be enough (or you need a very large ice maker.
- teeray 3y agoSeems like the interesting part of this apparatus then is just the heat pump to cool the water. Would be nice to have that with an intake and outlet hose for arbitrary tubs
- swader999 3y agoThat's a lot of work to fill the tub and load the ice. Cold shower is easy and good enough.
- kevinmchugh 3y agoNeed a lot of ice, for one
- storkhm 3y agoThat is how it started. People that were really into this would get an ice machine like at a hotel to throw ice in the tub. It is just another fitness gimmick with limited use that most people will get and never use. Most people I know with hottubs barely use them once the novelty wears off let alone cold. Most people's diet and sleep is not dialed in enough to worry about an ice bath.
- ftyers 3y agohttps://archive.ph/Vd5Wu https://archive.ph/Vd5Wu
- moneywoes 3y agoCold showers aren’t sufficient?
- monktastic1 3y agoI'm not supporting this nonsense by any means, but water coming out of the cold side isn't always cold enough (e.g. in Austin in the summer it feels like the cold water is 70+ degrees).
- quasarj 3y agoDo people actually take cold showers? I would pass out. I've almost passed out from accidentally turning the water on cold just for a second lol
- scruple 3y agoI do, yes, at least 3-4 times a week, depending on ym training schedule. I also regularly fill a tub with cold tap water and add ice to soak my lower body after long runs or rucks (long here is north of 2.5-3 hours). I worked up to it gradually over a period of months, maybe years, when I first got into marathon training.
- solarkraft 3y agoA tub. They put a tub in their yard. My uncle uses a rain barrel, which works fine. But he's not the CEO of a charity organization.
- mmastrac 3y agoBut does it have customized zebrawood?
- gnicholas 3y agoThe author was careful to note that the water is "circulating at 1,400 gallons a minute". I suppose that if you used still water instead, your body heat might warm up the water next to your skin a tiny bit...but I have a hard time believing that it would make any difference.
- monktastic1 3y agoIf only human limbs could move, thereby stirring the water...
- gnicholas 3y agoMere mortals have no chance of achieving 1,400 gallons per minute, which everyone knows is the critical speed for ice baths. /s
- frankthedog 3y agoIt does. Even waving your arms in a still cold pool will feel much colder than staying still.
- teeray 3y agoSo it’s the tech bro equivalent of jumping into a mountain stream to cool off
- pram 3y agoThat’s a pretty good idea, reminds me of my mom filling up a wheelbarrow with water as a crappy pool for me lol
- Fervicus 3y agoWhat has people's experience with cold showers/ice baths been? Is it as positive as all the hype advertises?
- theGnuMe 3y agoYes I found it helped train/improve my stress response along with wym hoff breathing. I found it makes me less likely to overreact and it apparently improves focus/attention. The nordic countries have been doing polar plunges for a long time for similar reasons. They say it helps with depression too. Chris Hemsworth, the actor who plays Thor did a mini series on National Geographic and one episode feature it.
- swader999 3y agoYeah it's great. Wakes you up, dopamine boost. Good immune system boost. Do the breathing exercises too but never near water or while driving.
- mise_en_place 3y agoAnecdotal but contrast therapy (using my pool as a cold plunge and my hot tub as the heated portion), alleviates the soreness of my muscles during my recovery days
- baron816 3y agoThis was covered in a recent Plain English podcast: https://www.theringer.com/2023/4/4/23668556/myth-busting-wellness-hacks-cold-plunges-coffee-alcohol-fitness-trackers https://www.theringer.com/2023/4/4/23668556/myth-busting-wel... The evidence for the health benefits is extremely weak. It can help accelerate “recovery” from exercise, but at a cost of diminishing the benefits of the exercise in the first place. Your body gets sore when you workout for a reason. The only reason you’d want to stop that process is you’re in a multi day competition, which you’re not.
- 23B1 3y agoMost folks on HN are going to go straight to the physiological benefits, and zip past the psychological ones. I'm a former Green Beret and combat diver. You know what cold plunges are good for? Practicing will power, and bravery. It sucks. It's the worst thing ever. But it won't kill you. So you do it for the shock and the pain and the fact that you can safely push yourself to do something you and your body realllllly hates, and you can do it without becoming David Goggins or Jocko or whatever. Just run a cold bath, dump some ice in, and practice being brave.
- porknubbins 3y agoGetting rich seemed so much more worth the effort when the upper class lifestyle was lavish and decadent. Now that we have this self righteous, abstemious class of tech overlords it really cured me of envy. Zuckerberg spends his free time trying to outrun his demons with insane workouts posted on social media, but I can be broke and pretty much do that.
- gnicholas 3y agoYep, the NYT covered Zuckerberg's workouts this weekend as well [1] [2]. Luxury fitness is all the rage! 1: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/02/style/mark-zuckerberg-workout.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/02/style/mark-zuckerberg-wor... 2: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36182282 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36182282
- lotsofpulp 3y agoThat is because lavish-ness and decadence is cheap. Being disciplined is a step above, and spending time working on yourself rather than working for someone else is even more upper class. Also, there is still expensive real estate (more than Austin for sure), private jets, boats, servants, etc if you want to strive for “lavishness and decadence”.
- rgbgraph 3y agoIt helps that the “upper class” is mostly faux, and driven by fashion more than anything innate. Zuckerberg is not upper class in the classical sense. He doesn’t have the resources or molding to truly be able to fuck off, live in the woods in a centuries-old mansion, rolling in debauchery and in complete disassociation from humanity. I.e. if you know about them, they’re not upper class, but very high upper middle class (they still “work” and participate in vulgar activities like business, rather than utterly “worthless” activities that are driven by innate desire, not glorified peer pressure). Mitt Romney is upper middle class. The Bushes are upper middle class. The Sacklers, the Clintons, the Kochs, Buffett, Gates, the Siemens, the Onassis’, the Waltons — all relatively new players, and haven’t yet been aged by centuries of absolute apathy and detachment. Ellison is definitely getting there. I think the biggest difference between him and the rest are upbringing. Ellison was not raised upper middle class, and had little regard for his family and circle. He did not have countless other upper middle class people around him in his formative years to mold his soul into conforming with upper middle class sensibilities (make money, gain influence, be interesting, important, play the image game, etc.). And now he’s fucked off to Lanai. The only thing that man values is himself and his capricious desires — that is what the upper class is. There is no internal need within him to conform to external pressures. The man is a cunt. What about the rest of the list? They grew up in relative affluence, and the upper middle class sensibilities have been imprinted onto them. To use a pop-culture example, none of them are Logan Roys. They care how people view them — especially their intimates. They might feign thoughtless excellence, but deep down they’re driven by the external forces that molded them. If there’s any amusing note it’s that the true upper class has more in common with the lower class than it does with the middle. The middle lives on lies and self-deceptions, while the upper and lower only care about themselves and their authentic desires. For example, compare Roedean to Philips Exeter. The people are utterly different — and the wealth and money is but a surface measure.
- solarkraft 3y agoThis article is pure bait and I've totally fallen for it.
- jofinjoseph 3y agoI am curious. Doesn't a cold shower really serve the purpose? Is it really have to be a plunge? What's the sciebtific reason?
- nomilk 3y agoDepends on the temperature of the tap water, which varies a lot by place and season.
- steve_adams_86 3y agoMy understanding is that a cold shower gives some of the benefits but due to incomplete coverage it simply isn’t as cold or effective. But still, if it’s all you’ve got it’s worthwhile.
- fy20 3y agoI live in Northern Europe, and next to our community is a large lake that people like to swim in at all times of year. During the middle of summer the water can get up to maybe 25c, and during winter there is a 10cm+ layer of ice and it's full of fishermen. At that time people cut a hole in the ice where you can take a plunge or go for a quick swim. I haven't tried it myself but people who do it regularly say that if you do it every day - say starting in the summer and continuing until winter - you don't notice the temperature dropping so much. We also have the same rumours about health benefits, but I'm not sure what the science says. I'd guess if there are any, it's more from being somewhat active (locals usually walk to the lake) than the temperature. We also like to roll in the snow after sauna. Our life expectancy isn't any better than warmer climates.
- steve_adams_86 3y agoThe science is very compelling! I’ve been following it for a while now but a nice and digestible overview I heard recently was on the Huberman lab podcast with Susanna Søberg: https://hubermanlab.com/dr-susanna-soberg-how-to-use-cold-and-heat-exposure-to-improve-your-health/ https://hubermanlab.com/dr-susanna-soberg-how-to-use-cold-an...