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So you suppose the US military being too incompetent to discern balloons for what they are? I find it rather surprising, the US population throwing insane amou

So you suppose the US military being too incompetent to discern balloons for what they are? I find it rather surprising, the US population throwing insane amounts of money at their military while simultaneously judging them to be imbeciles. Modern radar is of course perfectly capable of seeing a balloon for what it is. Pilots circling around them in unceasing awe is pure fantasy.

pengaru 3y ago
> So you suppose the US military being too incompetent to discern balloons for what they are? So you suppose there's no reason for the US military to deliberately appear this way? "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak" - Sun Tzu
kadoban 3y ago
> So you suppose the US military being too incompetent to discern balloons for what they are? If the choices are between "aliens are real" or "the US military is composed of humans with largely normal human ability to be wrong", I know which one I'd pick.
- breakyerself 3y ago
  Did you see the videos they released that they couldn't explain? They're clearly not in the UFO debunking business.
- pleb_nz 3y ago
  It doesn't have to be a choice, both can be true
breakyerself 3y ago
Why do you assume the military is competent at debunking UFO sightings? Is that their area of expertise? I thought it was warfare.
ianburrell 3y ago
The reports of recently intercepted balloons sounded like balloons but weren’t identified as such. It is possible that was because they didn’t want to admit they shot down little balloons. Or maybe pilots didn’t recognize them without seeing the tiny payload from a quick pass. But there was lots of speculation, including from in government, that they were mysterious. Most UFOs aren’t balloons, but we have recent examples of balloons being identified as UFOs.
simple-thoughts 3y ago
US DOD does not experience competitive pressures towards competence. It does experience competition from other agencies attempting to acquire funds from Congress. Most other militaries are even less competent.
yowzadave 3y ago
Why do you think they held this big hearing and then didn't show any videos that showed anything anomalous? They talked about "orbs" that moved in anomalous ways, but showed no videos of this. They then showed a video of an "orb" that didn't move in an unusual way--it could easily have been a balloon. The story always seems to be: there are thousands of reports of UAP. Most of them are readily identifiable, and thus eliminated as UAP, leaving some hundreds of reports that could not be identified. They then release one or two videos, which usually have plausible explanations and don't conform with the wilder UAP descriptions.

pengaru 3y ago

> So you suppose the US military being too incompetent to discern balloons for what they are? So you suppose there's no reason for the US military to deliberately appear this way? "Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak" - Sun Tzu

kadoban 3y ago

> So you suppose the US military being too incompetent to discern balloons for what they are? If the choices are between "aliens are real" or "the US military is composed of humans with largely normal human ability to be wrong", I know which one I'd pick.

breakyerself 3y ago
Did you see the videos they released that they couldn't explain? They're clearly not in the UFO debunking business.
pleb_nz 3y ago
It doesn't have to be a choice, both can be true

breakyerself 3y ago

Why do you assume the military is competent at debunking UFO sightings? Is that their area of expertise? I thought it was warfare.

ianburrell 3y ago

The reports of recently intercepted balloons sounded like balloons but weren’t identified as such. It is possible that was because they didn’t want to admit they shot down little balloons. Or maybe pilots didn’t recognize them without seeing the tiny payload from a quick pass. But there was lots of speculation, including from in government, that they were mysterious. Most UFOs aren’t balloons, but we have recent examples of balloons being identified as UFOs.

simple-thoughts 3y ago

US DOD does not experience competitive pressures towards competence. It does experience competition from other agencies attempting to acquire funds from Congress. Most other militaries are even less competent.

yowzadave 3y ago

Why do you think they held this big hearing and then didn't show any videos that showed anything anomalous? They talked about "orbs" that moved in anomalous ways, but showed no videos of this. They then showed a video of an "orb" that didn't move in an unusual way--it could easily have been a balloon. The story always seems to be: there are thousands of reports of UAP. Most of them are readily identifiable, and thus eliminated as UAP, leaving some hundreds of reports that could not be identified. They then release one or two videos, which usually have plausible explanations and don't conform with the wilder UAP descriptions.