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It is literally the definition of FUD here, though. These aren't things that have happened. And the data is ridiculously clear on progress. To paint these do
by taeric 3y ago
It is literally the definition of FUD here, though. These aren't things that have happened. And the data is ridiculously clear on progress. To paint these doubts is pretty much only to spread fear and uncertainty.
- Dylan16807 3y agoIt's not FUD, they're not stating it as a fact, they're asking for an analysis of AEB in lots of different situations and not just overall.
- taeric 3y agoThat is how many FUD tactics are done. It is a rhetorical trick to try and maintain an exit...
- Dylan16807 3y agoYes, but sharing a characteristic with FUD is not enough to make something FUD. It's a realistic concern. Someone else mentioned airbags. Airbags are great overall but increase danger for some people, and that's without obvious signs of anything being wrong. With AEB we know it makes dangerous mistakes in significant amounts. So we very much should analyze different implementations under different kinds of weather, road, and driving style.
- taeric 3y agoWe don't know it makes dangerous mistakes. Randos on the internet assert that. The data shows fairly convincing evidence is reduces wrecks. Is it a new behavior and jarring when engaged? Certainly. Should we keep watching the data for problems? Certainly. Should folks report all problems so that they are tracked? Certainly. Do most people actually have trouble driving safely? Despite their insistent view of how great they are at driving? ...
- Dylan16807 3y agoDo I need to go find dashcams? We know it makes dangerous mistakes. Come on.
- taeric 3y agoThis is not one I will cede without evidence, so yeah. With the amusing extra burden that I have yet to know a safe driver that used a dash camera. I have been in a car where the alert went off that it was engaging aeb. The driver was far too close to the car in front of us...
- Dylan16807 3y agoLet's see, what can I find on youtube in a couple minutes of searching. In increasing order of wrongness: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLRRBHNjCn4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BLRRBHNjCn4 There's a car that it's reasonable to worry about, but it was clearly braking and almost stopped by the time AEB kicked in, and AEB kept going as that car went to zero. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO6tJnM_HSs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TO6tJnM_HSs Adaptive cruise was already in control and working fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCk6yrN453c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCk6yrN453c Absolutely nothing in front. And whatever happened here probably counts: https://theintercept.com/2023/01/10/tesla-crash-footage-autopilot/ https://theintercept.com/2023/01/10/tesla-crash-footage-auto...