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curious how combative some people seem to get about homeopathics when placebo has been shown to have consistent positive effect, without side effects, for almos

curious how combative some people seem to get about homeopathics when placebo has been shown to have consistent positive effect, without side effects, for almost every illness

metalliqaz 3y ago
they aren't honestly trying to sell placebos (like Zeebo). They are marketing actual 'cures' for serious maladies that could respond to real treatments
technothrasher 3y ago
If placebos don’t have side effects, why do the control groups in placebo-based trials always report side effects? And given that “homeopathic” to most casually informed people is the same as “naturopathic”, what those people are taking are not necessarily harmless placebos. As for your “almost every illness,” that’s just meaningless hyperbole.
msla 3y ago
Yes, it's 'curious' how people with a sense of basic decency get 'combative' when the Alternative Medicine Industry lies to them to sell useless treatments for diseases that could actually be improved by real medicine. It really is odd how that works, isn't it?
- smegsicle 3y ago
  homeopathic medicine is clearly marked as such, do you disagree on this point? anyone who complains about it who doesn't have at least as strong a crusade against crap like phenylephrine is a hypocrite
  - sohex 3y ago
    That's a weird claim. Phenylephrine has a number of well documented and researched effects with demonstrable efficiency greater than that of a placebo. Now there are certainly people who have and do take it as a decongestant despite that particular usage having been shown to be ineffective, but that doesn't make it crap and it certainly doesn't place it in the same category as homeopathic remedies.
    - haldujai 3y ago
      It’s used as life saving drug for critically ill patients in ICU…
  - msla 3y ago
    > homeopathic medicine is clearly marked as such, do you disagree on this point? I disagree that it qualifies as medicine.

curious how combative some people seem to get about homeopathics when placebo has been shown to have consistent positive effect, without side effects, for almost every illness

metalliqaz 3y ago

they aren't honestly trying to sell placebos (like Zeebo). They are marketing actual 'cures' for serious maladies that could respond to real treatments

technothrasher 3y ago

If placebos don’t have side effects, why do the control groups in placebo-based trials always report side effects? And given that “homeopathic” to most casually informed people is the same as “naturopathic”, what those people are taking are not necessarily harmless placebos. As for your “almost every illness,” that’s just meaningless hyperbole.

msla 3y ago

Yes, it's 'curious' how people with a sense of basic decency get 'combative' when the Alternative Medicine Industry lies to them to sell useless treatments for diseases that could actually be improved by real medicine. It really is odd how that works, isn't it?

smegsicle 3y ago
homeopathic medicine is clearly marked as such, do you disagree on this point? anyone who complains about it who doesn't have at least as strong a crusade against crap like phenylephrine is a hypocrite
- sohex 3y ago
  That's a weird claim. Phenylephrine has a number of well documented and researched effects with demonstrable efficiency greater than that of a placebo. Now there are certainly people who have and do take it as a decongestant despite that particular usage having been shown to be ineffective, but that doesn't make it crap and it certainly doesn't place it in the same category as homeopathic remedies.
  - haldujai 3y ago
    It’s used as life saving drug for critically ill patients in ICU…
- msla 3y ago
  > homeopathic medicine is clearly marked as such, do you disagree on this point? I disagree that it qualifies as medicine.