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Yikes. I’m hopeful for the future but knowing how Uber capitalists work (I consider myself a capitalist too fwiw) it worries me that we will see worse disaster

Yikes. I’m hopeful for the future but knowing how Uber capitalists work (I consider myself a capitalist too fwiw) it worries me that we will see worse disasters when private companies everywhere doing nuclear shit.

galleywest200 3y ago
Luckily all nuclear waste is now under the purview of the Department of Energy.
goalieca 3y ago
Pollution in USSR was something else. It’s not capitalism it’s a general resources problem.
- mepian 3y ago
  The Mayak plant, which basically is the Soviet Hanford, neglected any environmental concerns and was the place of the second-worst nuclear incident: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster >Initially Mayak dumped high-level radioactive waste into a nearby river, which flowed to the river Ob, flowing farther downstream to the Arctic Ocean. All six reactors were on Lake Kyzyltash and used an open-cycle cooling system, discharging contaminated water directly back into the lake. When Lake Kyzyltash quickly became contaminated, Lake Karachay was used for open-air storage, keeping the contamination a slight distance from the reactors but soon making Lake Karachay the "most-polluted spot on Earth".
  - winrid 3y ago
    Nothing to see here, just glowing, flickering radiation clouds. > After the explosion, a column of smoke and dust rose to a kilometer high, the dust flickered with an orange-red light and settled on buildings and people.
- noizejoy 3y ago
  In the former GDR(DDR), too[0] [0] https://apnews.com/article/b771e863afa629be5139b65784b21aba https://apnews.com/article/b771e863afa629be5139b65784b21aba
karaterobot 3y ago
> Uber capitalists The government did at least most of the polluting. They contracted the cleanup to private companies.
peepeepoopoo7 3y ago
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prottog 3y ago
In addition to the points that the other commenters raised, generally externalities such as pollution are worse when the entity creating the externality does not have to worry about paying for it. This is why authoritarian governments are especially bad at polluting. Democratic governments are second-worst, since although they may be questioned and legally challenged, governments like to carve out a lot of exceptions for themselves (see things like the Kirtland AFB water pollution). Capitalists, with the power of limited liability behind them, are third-worst, but through careful management of incentives and regulations government can mitigate the issue better than it can mitigate itself.

galleywest200 3y ago

Luckily all nuclear waste is now under the purview of the Department of Energy.

goalieca 3y ago

Pollution in USSR was something else. It’s not capitalism it’s a general resources problem.

mepian 3y ago
The Mayak plant, which basically is the Soviet Hanford, neglected any environmental concerns and was the place of the second-worst nuclear incident: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyshtym_disaster >Initially Mayak dumped high-level radioactive waste into a nearby river, which flowed to the river Ob, flowing farther downstream to the Arctic Ocean. All six reactors were on Lake Kyzyltash and used an open-cycle cooling system, discharging contaminated water directly back into the lake. When Lake Kyzyltash quickly became contaminated, Lake Karachay was used for open-air storage, keeping the contamination a slight distance from the reactors but soon making Lake Karachay the "most-polluted spot on Earth".
- winrid 3y ago
  Nothing to see here, just glowing, flickering radiation clouds. > After the explosion, a column of smoke and dust rose to a kilometer high, the dust flickered with an orange-red light and settled on buildings and people.
noizejoy 3y ago
In the former GDR(DDR), too[0] [0] https://apnews.com/article/b771e863afa629be5139b65784b21aba https://apnews.com/article/b771e863afa629be5139b65784b21aba

karaterobot 3y ago

> Uber capitalists The government did at least most of the polluting. They contracted the cleanup to private companies.

peepeepoopoo7 3y ago

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prottog 3y ago

In addition to the points that the other commenters raised, generally externalities such as pollution are worse when the entity creating the externality does not have to worry about paying for it. This is why authoritarian governments are especially bad at polluting. Democratic governments are second-worst, since although they may be questioned and legally challenged, governments like to carve out a lot of exceptions for themselves (see things like the Kirtland AFB water pollution). Capitalists, with the power of limited liability behind them, are third-worst, but through careful management of incentives and regulations government can mitigate the issue better than it can mitigate itself.