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>She said that for people who have the angry little angry waspy voices in their head, the particular placement of the electrode that I had for that part of the
by dav_Oz 3y ago
>She said that for people who have the angry little angry waspy voices in their head, the particular placement of the electrode that I had for that part of the cortex found great success. She said those people have this overactive angry cortex guy just sitting there. When you apply the electric field, it shuts him right up and those people find that their depressive symptoms are alleviated.
I was thinking of conceptualizing this little angry voice as the guy from the “Inside Out” Disney movie, whose head blows up as a volcano. Those were the sorts of angry little voices that I hear frequently as my background elevator music. I never thought of that as being related to being depressed, but I certainly sometimes have a pretty hard time with that. The experience of having that turned off was really interesting. It made me think about what my inner soundscape is daily, and afterwards I really started investigating how to manage that a little bit more deliberately.
Goudarzi: Did the inner negative voices go away immediately or after the currents were flowing for some time?
Adee: I didn’t really notice it go away initially. It wasn’t dramatic. It’s just that when I looked back, I noticed it. After, when I was sort of going about my day, I felt this very deep sense of calm. And it wasn’t only for the duration of the treatment; it was a very slow come down for about the next three days. I just wasn’t this sort of white-knuckling, anxious person—that was really dramatic.
Actually this is pretty hard to do by yourself most people don't recognize this inner talk as self-talk weighing them down, so they can't get off.
It took me really some time (opening up to my early experiences in childhood and fully connecting to them from a child's perspective) to recognize this perfectly camouflaged "personality" inside of me talking down on myself.
Now, it isn't gone like described above with the stimulation (cause it's part of myself) but at least I can engage with the voice, acknowledge it and talk back, before I just felt overrun and assaulted.
- bsenftner 3y agoThis negative self talk is called Cognitive Distortion, and is the core of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy - but I like to use the street phrase "playing yourself": it's having a dishonest, negative and deceptive self conversation running in your head. And with a simple 10 question checklist one can logically neuter this negative aspect of your own personality quite easily, without electrical stimulation or drugs, and one enters flow to accomplish goals with less friction. If this sounds interesting, try doing a web search of "Cognitive Distortion + Dr. David Burns". You will not regret the time spent investigating, in fact it may supercharge your career.
- wfhBrian 3y agoI was curious about this list of questions. What do you think about this list? https://chat.openai.com/share/64638f92-2790-4938-a1df-75021e5d1dd2 https://chat.openai.com/share/64638f92-2790-4938-a1df-75021e...
- bsenftner 3y agoThat's the list. It is amazing what these simple 10 questions can do to one's perspective.
- luxuryballs 3y agothis sounds promising but I just want to be a sharp shooter now
- bsenftner 3y agoYou'll be amazed how fast this works. In 30 minutes your mental state will be significantly improved, if you are subject/victim of any of these extremely common self deceptions.
- luxuryballs 3y agoit seems like it’s going to be messy or a pain to maintain with the whole salt water thing, does it seem like there are lasting effects? brain plasticity changes due to the stimulation or potentially the opposite where you get rebound like with drugs where you are less effective after they wear off than you were before taking them?
- bsenftner 3y agoNot sure what you're referring to with "the whole salt water thing". This is simply talking, talking with yourself, and learning how to recognize when your self conversation is not honest. Often simply the recognition of dishonesty in one's own self thoughts makes that line of reason evaporate with no additional effort. As far as lasting effect: what happens when you learn "a friend" is a constant liar? You simply stop believing them.