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Reddit doesn't supply a valuable service. They basically just ran and squatted on the concept of "internet forum" and used VC/network effects to bully almost a

Reddit doesn't supply a valuable service. They basically just ran and squatted on the concept of "internet forum" and used VC/network effects to bully almost all the normal forums into (temporary) nonexistence. Anyone reading this can make their own Reddit-esque forum on a VPS and serve a few thousand people for a few bucks a month. And if Reddit ever kicks out all the polished app users/old.reddit users, you'll see that start happening a hell of a lot more

_hypx 3y ago
Which is funny because Internet forums used to be a software package you acquire and run on your own servers. No one really asked for a centralized system where you didn't have any control. It seems pretty straight-forward to go back to that original idea.
SSLy 3y ago
Anyone reading this can spin a discord namespace ("guild"/"server") and that's what reddit is competing with, even if they don't realize that.
- nonethewiser 3y ago
  I think youre right. People are always trying to imagine the next reddit and its not going to be some clone like voat or whatever. Hackernews is actually a lot like reddit used to be but its not going to scale to reddits size without subreddits, or the like. I dont know if anything will overtake Reddit for a very long time because of network effects. But discord is probably the best guess. Although I actually think people do want centralization. They want 1 login to 1 website that has everything.
- pb7 3y ago
  Discord is tomorrow’s Reddit, except it’s even more siloed and it can’t be indexed.
  - SSLy 3y ago
    Yes, true. I'm not a defender or proponent of discord by any measure, but I do see them as the most serious competitor for the same kind of communities that hang out on the more focused subreddits.
  - 0x457 3y ago
    Half of my reddit usage is "X review Reddit". Discord would never fill in that niche.
paxys 3y ago
That is irrelevant. They are offering a service. If you find value in it then pay for it. Otherwise use something else.
- Firmwarrior 3y ago
  They don't really offer a service, though. They just built a toll gate and tricked people into needing to cross through it. An ever-increasingly annoying, crappy toll gate at that. Presumably that's why they haven't booted old.* users yet. They realize that a really substantial amount of their network effects and their moat stem from quality posts by people using computers. Reddit is about to fuck around and find out, and unfortunately I think they're going to find out that people will just dump everything into even more annoyingly gated-off Discord communities

_hypx 3y ago

Which is funny because Internet forums used to be a software package you acquire and run on your own servers. No one really asked for a centralized system where you didn't have any control. It seems pretty straight-forward to go back to that original idea.

SSLy 3y ago

Anyone reading this can spin a discord namespace ("guild"/"server") and that's what reddit is competing with, even if they don't realize that.

nonethewiser 3y ago
I think youre right. People are always trying to imagine the next reddit and its not going to be some clone like voat or whatever. Hackernews is actually a lot like reddit used to be but its not going to scale to reddits size without subreddits, or the like. I dont know if anything will overtake Reddit for a very long time because of network effects. But discord is probably the best guess. Although I actually think people do want centralization. They want 1 login to 1 website that has everything.
pb7 3y ago
Discord is tomorrow’s Reddit, except it’s even more siloed and it can’t be indexed.
- SSLy 3y ago
  Yes, true. I'm not a defender or proponent of discord by any measure, but I do see them as the most serious competitor for the same kind of communities that hang out on the more focused subreddits.
- 0x457 3y ago
  Half of my reddit usage is "X review Reddit". Discord would never fill in that niche.

paxys 3y ago

That is irrelevant. They are offering a service. If you find value in it then pay for it. Otherwise use something else.

Firmwarrior 3y ago
They don't really offer a service, though. They just built a toll gate and tricked people into needing to cross through it. An ever-increasingly annoying, crappy toll gate at that. Presumably that's why they haven't booted old.* users yet. They realize that a really substantial amount of their network effects and their moat stem from quality posts by people using computers. Reddit is about to fuck around and find out, and unfortunately I think they're going to find out that people will just dump everything into even more annoyingly gated-off Discord communities