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Is education free in India ? I believe it is. With that said, seems India is mirroring the US in making sure only the wealthy will get a good education (priva

by jmclnx 3y ago

Is education free in India ? I believe it is. With that said, seems India is mirroring the US in making sure only the wealthy will get a good education (private schools). It is a dangerous game doing that, eventually the mass will rise up once they realize their children have no hope in succeeding.

benced 3y ago
It is far more common in India to go to a private school. As a rule of thumb, if you know an educated Indian, they went to private school. https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2022/10/india-the-largest-experiment-in-private-schooling-in-history.html https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2022/10/in... This makes this decision both more and less outrageous. On one level, it had less effect than a similar decision than the US. On the other, it helps cripple the poor in India (who are actually poor, not American poor).
- schoubey 3y ago
  Both public and private schools in India use NCERT books and have the same examinations. Private schools only ensure things are taught better, what is taught is still the same.
  - joshuaissac 3y ago
    In my experience, government schools are far more likely to be state government schools than central government schools, and so they are more likely use the local state board's curriculum instead those of the CBSE or ICSE.
    - alephnerd 3y ago
      Depends on the State. For example in Delhi, a number of Govt of Delhi operated schools will use CBSE curriculum as well.
- Dig1t 3y ago
  That goes against what I heard from my Indian friends. I was told that public schools are actually more prestigious than private schools, they are more rigorous apparently?
  - joshuaissac 3y ago
    > public schools are actually more prestigious than private schools They are, but they are still private schools, not government schools. They are based in British public schools, where the word 'public' refers to the fact that students of any religion could historically be admitted to them, not that they are state-owned or state-controlled.
  - mhink 3y ago
    According to a commenter up-thread, what Americans call "public schools" are referred to as "government schools", and what Americans call "private schools" are referred to as "public schools". Probably a carryover in terminology from Britain, where extremely prestigious schools like Eton are called "public schools" for historical reasons.
    - desas 3y ago
      > where extremely prestigious schools like Eton are called "public schools" for historical reasons. In the UK public and private referred to who could access the schools (assuming they had the money), whereas in the US they refer to how the schools are funded. Now the UK has a kludge. The former private schools don't really exist, they've mainly changed into independent fee-paying public schools not controlled or funded by the state. In the meantime (i.e. centuries ago), the state started funding schools, including religiously selective schools and has been increasingly giving more independence to the schools it funds.
      - qwytw 3y ago
        What would be an example of a non public private school (even in the past?). I assumed the terms are basically synonymous in the UK?
mtoner23 3y ago
Its free but there aren't enough schools and many kids dont attend. The trend in the us is not making sure only the wealthy get a good education. more people in the us than ever go to college and we are smarter and more educated than ever before.
Arnavion 3y ago
(I'm Indian but left India ~15 years ago, so my info may be out of date.) It's free in government schools, what Americans would call public schools. Middle and upper class kids usually go to public schools, what Americans would call private schools, which have fees and may use non-NCERT textbooks too. I believe that for a school to be ratified it is only required that it teach at least what is mandated by the relevant education board (generally the national level one, CBSE), so it would be okay for a ratified school to use a private textbook that teaches the NCERT syllabus + periodic table + evolution. Also college coaching classes (for IIT-JEE etc) may continue to cover these topics anyway. Even during my time they were covering topics that had been cut from the government-mandated curriculum, so it wouldn't be surprising.

by jmclnx 3y ago

benced 3y ago

It is far more common in India to go to a private school. As a rule of thumb, if you know an educated Indian, they went to private school. https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2022/10/india-the-largest-experiment-in-private-schooling-in-history.html https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2022/10/in... This makes this decision both more and less outrageous. On one level, it had less effect than a similar decision than the US. On the other, it helps cripple the poor in India (who are actually poor, not American poor).

schoubey 3y ago
Both public and private schools in India use NCERT books and have the same examinations. Private schools only ensure things are taught better, what is taught is still the same.
- joshuaissac 3y ago
  In my experience, government schools are far more likely to be state government schools than central government schools, and so they are more likely use the local state board's curriculum instead those of the CBSE or ICSE.
  - alephnerd 3y ago
    Depends on the State. For example in Delhi, a number of Govt of Delhi operated schools will use CBSE curriculum as well.
Dig1t 3y ago
That goes against what I heard from my Indian friends. I was told that public schools are actually more prestigious than private schools, they are more rigorous apparently?
- joshuaissac 3y ago
  > public schools are actually more prestigious than private schools They are, but they are still private schools, not government schools. They are based in British public schools, where the word 'public' refers to the fact that students of any religion could historically be admitted to them, not that they are state-owned or state-controlled.
- mhink 3y ago
  According to a commenter up-thread, what Americans call "public schools" are referred to as "government schools", and what Americans call "private schools" are referred to as "public schools". Probably a carryover in terminology from Britain, where extremely prestigious schools like Eton are called "public schools" for historical reasons.
  - desas 3y ago
    > where extremely prestigious schools like Eton are called "public schools" for historical reasons. In the UK public and private referred to who could access the schools (assuming they had the money), whereas in the US they refer to how the schools are funded. Now the UK has a kludge. The former private schools don't really exist, they've mainly changed into independent fee-paying public schools not controlled or funded by the state. In the meantime (i.e. centuries ago), the state started funding schools, including religiously selective schools and has been increasingly giving more independence to the schools it funds.
    - qwytw 3y ago
      What would be an example of a non public private school (even in the past?). I assumed the terms are basically synonymous in the UK?

mtoner23 3y ago

Its free but there aren't enough schools and many kids dont attend. The trend in the us is not making sure only the wealthy get a good education. more people in the us than ever go to college and we are smarter and more educated than ever before.

Arnavion 3y ago

(I'm Indian but left India ~15 years ago, so my info may be out of date.) It's free in government schools, what Americans would call public schools. Middle and upper class kids usually go to public schools, what Americans would call private schools, which have fees and may use non-NCERT textbooks too. I believe that for a school to be ratified it is only required that it teach at least what is mandated by the relevant education board (generally the national level one, CBSE), so it would be okay for a ratified school to use a private textbook that teaches the NCERT syllabus + periodic table + evolution. Also college coaching classes (for IIT-JEE etc) may continue to cover these topics anyway. Even during my time they were covering topics that had been cut from the government-mandated curriculum, so it wouldn't be surprising.