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> suicidal sociopaths will be able to get extremely well informed, intelligent directions on how to kill as many people as possible I mean, that was/is a worry

> suicidal sociopaths will be able to get extremely well informed, intelligent directions on how to kill as many people as possible I mean, that was/is a worry about the Internet, too

Spooky23 3y ago
Internet? Try the anarchists cookbook!
- bragr 3y ago
  If you actually try the anarchists cookbook, you will find many of the recipes don't work or work that well.
  - George83728 3y ago
    Quite a few of them work just fine. Dissolving styrofoam into gasoline isn't exactly rocket science. Besides that, for every book that tells you made up bullshit, there are a hundred other books that give you real advice for how to create mayhem and destruction.
  - GartzenDeHaes 3y ago
    Or explode. The FBI scrapes up the remains of a few of these a*holes every year.
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    So it's just like every other cookbook then.
- suslik 3y ago
  Pretty sure a similar sentiment was present when printing press came about. "Just think about all the poor souls exposed to all these heresies".
loudmax 3y ago
Yes, and look at the extremism and social delusions and social networking addictions that have been exacerbated by the internet. On balance, it's still positive that the internet exists and people have open access to communication. We shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. But it's not an unalloyed good, we need to recognize that the technology brought some unexpected negative aspects came along with the overall positive benefit. This also goes for, say, automobiles. It's a good thing that cars exist and middle class people can afford to own and drive them. But few people at the start of the 20th anticipated the downsides of air pollution, traffic congestion and un-walkable suburban sprawl. This doesn't mean we shouldn't have cars. It does mean we need to be cognizant of problems that arise. So a world where regular people have access to AIs that are aligned to their own needs is better than a world in which all the AIs are aligned to the needs a few powerful corporations. But if you think there are no possible downsides to giving everyone access to superhuman intelligence without the wisdom to match, you're deluding yourself.
- Aerbil313 3y ago
  > This doesn't mean we shouldn't have cars. Why though? I can't see how modern technology's impact on human life has been a net positive. See the book Technological Slavery: https://ia800300.us.archive.org/21/items/tk-Technological-Slavery/tk-Technological-Slavery.pdf https://ia800300.us.archive.org/21/items/tk-Technological-Sl...
  - freedomben 3y ago
    I've never seen another person mention this book! This book was one of the most philosophically thought provoking books I think I've ever read, and I read a fair amount of philosophy. I disagree with the author's conclusion that violence is justified. I think we're just stuck, and the best thing to do is live our lives as best as possible. But much like Marxists are really good at identifying the problems of capitalism but not at proposing great solutions (given the realities of human nature), so is the author regarding the problems of technology.
    - 3y ago

> suicidal sociopaths will be able to get extremely well informed, intelligent directions on how to kill as many people as possible I mean, that was/is a worry about the Internet, too

Spooky23 3y ago

Internet? Try the anarchists cookbook!

bragr 3y ago
If you actually try the anarchists cookbook, you will find many of the recipes don't work or work that well.
- George83728 3y ago
  Quite a few of them work just fine. Dissolving styrofoam into gasoline isn't exactly rocket science. Besides that, for every book that tells you made up bullshit, there are a hundred other books that give you real advice for how to create mayhem and destruction.
- GartzenDeHaes 3y ago
  Or explode. The FBI scrapes up the remains of a few of these a*holes every year.
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  So it's just like every other cookbook then.
suslik 3y ago
Pretty sure a similar sentiment was present when printing press came about. "Just think about all the poor souls exposed to all these heresies".

loudmax 3y ago

Yes, and look at the extremism and social delusions and social networking addictions that have been exacerbated by the internet. On balance, it's still positive that the internet exists and people have open access to communication. We shouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. But it's not an unalloyed good, we need to recognize that the technology brought some unexpected negative aspects came along with the overall positive benefit. This also goes for, say, automobiles. It's a good thing that cars exist and middle class people can afford to own and drive them. But few people at the start of the 20th anticipated the downsides of air pollution, traffic congestion and un-walkable suburban sprawl. This doesn't mean we shouldn't have cars. It does mean we need to be cognizant of problems that arise. So a world where regular people have access to AIs that are aligned to their own needs is better than a world in which all the AIs are aligned to the needs a few powerful corporations. But if you think there are no possible downsides to giving everyone access to superhuman intelligence without the wisdom to match, you're deluding yourself.

Aerbil313 3y ago
> This doesn't mean we shouldn't have cars. Why though? I can't see how modern technology's impact on human life has been a net positive. See the book Technological Slavery: https://ia800300.us.archive.org/21/items/tk-Technological-Slavery/tk-Technological-Slavery.pdf https://ia800300.us.archive.org/21/items/tk-Technological-Sl...
- freedomben 3y ago
  I've never seen another person mention this book! This book was one of the most philosophically thought provoking books I think I've ever read, and I read a fair amount of philosophy. I disagree with the author's conclusion that violence is justified. I think we're just stuck, and the best thing to do is live our lives as best as possible. But much like Marxists are really good at identifying the problems of capitalism but not at proposing great solutions (given the realities of human nature), so is the author regarding the problems of technology.
  - 3y ago