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I agree. This is what the VR purists are missing: normal people are not going to spend about $2000 or more for a desktop gaming PC, and another $1000 for the VR

I agree. This is what the VR purists are missing: normal people are not going to spend about $2000 or more for a desktop gaming PC, and another $1000 for the VR headset and base stations. The setup even for techies isn’t easy and straightforward either. Wires are also no fun for VR Regardless of how you feel about meta, it’s really impressive that they were able to ship a decent 6DOF, standalone, VR headset at $299 which is relatively easy to use for even normal people. Going on a tangent, even after all this time people still don’t understand what the metaverse is. The metaverse is simply an AR / VR platform that has online access. That’s it. So this why Fortnite, voxels, and decentraland are NOT part of the metaverse, but Roblox, Minecraft, Rec Room, and Horizon are part because they all have VR support.

9dev 3y ago
> Going on a tangent, even after all this time people still don’t understand what the metaverse is. The metaverse is simply an AR / VR platform that has online access. That’s it. And that’s because Meta did a shitty job to tell people what it is! Have you heard or seen one of their ads? In Germany, they go like „the Metaverse will help doctors to do complicated surgery. It might be virtual, but the Metaverse will have a real impact“ It’s like pure essence of bullshit, on the level of those self-reordering fridges promised in the 90ies. If Meta would just release a single, convincing use case now, maybe things would look different. But they don’t, because they can’t, because there isn’t one. It’s a solution looking for a problem.
sgift 3y ago
> base stations > Wires are also no fun for VR I'd like to highlight these parts again. Even as someone who has a desktop gaming pc and all: Base stations suck. Wired VR sucks. Having wires get in your way while you are in VR is such a shit thing. I would never get back to it, not even for a generational leap in graphics quality. And base stations automatically mean you need far more space (or "creative solutions"), something people living in e.g. flats don't have. Or don't want to have. Sure, I could probably rearrange half a room around it, but VR is not that great and probably never will be. Almost nothing would be.
otikik 3y ago
> VR headset at $299 Wasn't Facebook losing money on each headset sold, though?
- tjpnz 3y ago
  The same is done for consoles with the expectation being they'll recoup their losses through software sales. The problem is that you need to offer a compelling experience first, which Meta has failed to deliver on.
- chaostheory 3y ago
  It’s $399 for the same headset now with the price increase, and it’s still the better overall deal.

9dev 3y ago

> Going on a tangent, even after all this time people still don’t understand what the metaverse is. The metaverse is simply an AR / VR platform that has online access. That’s it. And that’s because Meta did a shitty job to tell people what it is! Have you heard or seen one of their ads? In Germany, they go like „the Metaverse will help doctors to do complicated surgery. It might be virtual, but the Metaverse will have a real impact“ It’s like pure essence of bullshit, on the level of those self-reordering fridges promised in the 90ies. If Meta would just release a single, convincing use case now, maybe things would look different. But they don’t, because they can’t, because there isn’t one. It’s a solution looking for a problem.

sgift 3y ago

> base stations > Wires are also no fun for VR I'd like to highlight these parts again. Even as someone who has a desktop gaming pc and all: Base stations suck. Wired VR sucks. Having wires get in your way while you are in VR is such a shit thing. I would never get back to it, not even for a generational leap in graphics quality. And base stations automatically mean you need far more space (or "creative solutions"), something people living in e.g. flats don't have. Or don't want to have. Sure, I could probably rearrange half a room around it, but VR is not that great and probably never will be. Almost nothing would be.

otikik 3y ago

> VR headset at $299 Wasn't Facebook losing money on each headset sold, though?

tjpnz 3y ago
The same is done for consoles with the expectation being they'll recoup their losses through software sales. The problem is that you need to offer a compelling experience first, which Meta has failed to deliver on.
chaostheory 3y ago
It’s $399 for the same headset now with the price increase, and it’s still the better overall deal.