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“Responsibilities as a wife”—sorry, what are these supposed to be? Pretty sure there’s such a thing as “responsibilities as parents” and that one is ungendered

“Responsibilities as a wife”—sorry, what are these supposed to be? Pretty sure there’s such a thing as “responsibilities as parents” and that one is ungendered and that’s why they are enshrined in laws, but what are “responsibilities as a wife”? Though, of course, if you’re still thinking about gender norms, then either find someone who agrees with your expectations, or don’t be in a relationship at all because gender norms don’t actually matter to the work that goes into making a relationship or marriage work.

AussieWog93 3y ago
>“Responsibilities as a wife”—sorry, what are these supposed to be? Figure that out and you'll get a committed partner for life. ;) But to start, a wife is often the sole emotional support network that a man has, and in a healthy relationship his sole source of sex.
- rTX5CMRXIfFG 3y ago
  I know what it’s like to be in a long-term relationship that is effectively a marriage already, and while a good partner (looking past the gender issue with the language now) does take the effort to provide emotional support and even sex, I don’t think that it’s mature nor healthy to call such choices “responsibilities”, because responsibilities are things that people have the obligation to do regardless of their emotional and mental well-being.
gregytuq 3y ago
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- pcthrowaway 3y ago
  My own suspicion is that when both men and women participate equally in the work force, the economy adjusts so that it's impractical for just one to work. I think equality is a good thing; it's just that we haven't learn how to structure society to not squeeze as much productivity as possible out of working-age people.
  - shrimp_emoji 3y ago
    It's because all developed societies see collapses in birth rate since reproduction was a Ponzi scheme nature imposed upon us that, as the universal revealed preference, we're eager to escape given the chance. The first developed nations tend to be the most enlightened, which is why they're the most likely to challenge gender roles.

AussieWog93 3y ago

>“Responsibilities as a wife”—sorry, what are these supposed to be? Figure that out and you'll get a committed partner for life. ;) But to start, a wife is often the sole emotional support network that a man has, and in a healthy relationship his sole source of sex.

rTX5CMRXIfFG 3y ago
I know what it’s like to be in a long-term relationship that is effectively a marriage already, and while a good partner (looking past the gender issue with the language now) does take the effort to provide emotional support and even sex, I don’t think that it’s mature nor healthy to call such choices “responsibilities”, because responsibilities are things that people have the obligation to do regardless of their emotional and mental well-being.

gregytuq 3y ago

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pcthrowaway 3y ago
My own suspicion is that when both men and women participate equally in the work force, the economy adjusts so that it's impractical for just one to work. I think equality is a good thing; it's just that we haven't learn how to structure society to not squeeze as much productivity as possible out of working-age people.
- shrimp_emoji 3y ago
  It's because all developed societies see collapses in birth rate since reproduction was a Ponzi scheme nature imposed upon us that, as the universal revealed preference, we're eager to escape given the chance. The first developed nations tend to be the most enlightened, which is why they're the most likely to challenge gender roles.