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> and quite the contrary to those they deem "lesser" in status - the poor, the disabled, people of color. At least it is better than Europe which spent the fir

> and quite the contrary to those they deem "lesser" in status - the poor, the disabled, people of color. At least it is better than Europe which spent the first few decades of the 1900s exterminating them by the millions. Even now, Europe won’t allow foreigners to assimilate. Name any major EU company led by a non-white person. Even today at football games all over Europe, non-white players are openly subjected to horrific racial abuse by the crowds. Europe is still horribly racist towards any outsiders. Yet, living in their ethnically homogeneous countries they cast stones at the USA which has actually assimilated and welcomed people from all over the world.

skinnymuch 3y ago
It’s wild seeing US centric and Euro centric povs. How do both sides not see the problem with the Global North as a whole. The lack of self awareness between the Great Powers is interesting.
Aeolun 3y ago
> ethnically homogeneous countries Wut? Europe is anything but ethnically homogenous. The US is anything but welcoming now. It might have been in the past.
- RcouF1uZ4gsC 3y ago
  > Wut? Europe is anything but ethnically homogenous. You are right. I forgot how diverse countries like Belgium are where Flemish, French, and German communities (whose ancestors all likely were born within a few hundred miles of each other) all live together in peace and harmony (other than when they try to form a government)
  - Aeolun 3y ago
    I think you have a slightly different impression of Europeans than me. We mildly dislike all the other nationalities (except the French, everyone hates the French), but we have a few thousand years of history fighting each other and it just doesn’t seem worth the effort any more. All of that falls to nothing compared to the dislike some people have for the European version of the Mexicans stealing our jobs (hence, far right populism in Europe rising sharply right now) Never mind that none of the ethic Europeans wants to do those jobs in the first place. I’m sure we’ll figure it out in 100 years or so. When everyone will be some variety of brown/yellow/pink.
notacoward 3y ago
> Name any major EU company led by a non-white person. Shell (nominally UK but founded and well known as Royal Dutch Shell) is the largest EU(ish) company, headed by Lebanese-Canadian Wael Sawan. Exor (Italy/Netherlands) is #10, headed by Indian Ajaypal Singh Banga. Please, check your facts before making prejudicial claims again. And don't try "No True Scotsman" because it would just be too funny in this context.
FranzFerdiNaN 3y ago
The UK, one of the largest European countries, is led by someone from Indian descent.
dukeyukey 3y ago
Not EU (and I'm British so I'll stick to the UK), but: * Rishi Sunak is literally our Prime Minister. * Sadiq Khan is the Mayor of London. * Wael Sawan, the CEO of Shell, the biggest UK company, is Lebanese. * C. S. Venkatakrishnan is the CEO of Barclays, HQ'd in London and one of the worlds biggest banks. * Johnny Boufarhat is the founder of Hopin, an online meetings platform that exploded during COVID. While it's in some trouble now and I'm not a fan, Johnny's parents are Lebanese and Syrian, although he's from Australia. Seriously dude, this stuff isn't hard to find. What kind of warped vision do you have of Europe here?
- alephnerd 3y ago
  I've worked in the UK for decent stints of time. As a brown guy, I have definetly faced much more microaggressions and "do you belong here" type conversations in the UK than I ever have growing up and working in the US. Your comment is the equivalent of saying "Obama was president, blacks don't face racism anymore".
  - dukeyukey 3y ago
    My comment was a very specific answer to the line: > Name any major EU company led by a non-white person (although the UK is no longer in the EU) I meant nothing else other than answering that line. If anything, take it up with parent comment, someone who believes non-white people are incapable of running large companies in Europe.
    - alephnerd 3y ago
      Fair enough!

skinnymuch 3y ago

It’s wild seeing US centric and Euro centric povs. How do both sides not see the problem with the Global North as a whole. The lack of self awareness between the Great Powers is interesting.

Aeolun 3y ago

> ethnically homogeneous countries Wut? Europe is anything but ethnically homogenous. The US is anything but welcoming now. It might have been in the past.

RcouF1uZ4gsC 3y ago
> Wut? Europe is anything but ethnically homogenous. You are right. I forgot how diverse countries like Belgium are where Flemish, French, and German communities (whose ancestors all likely were born within a few hundred miles of each other) all live together in peace and harmony (other than when they try to form a government)
- Aeolun 3y ago
  I think you have a slightly different impression of Europeans than me. We mildly dislike all the other nationalities (except the French, everyone hates the French), but we have a few thousand years of history fighting each other and it just doesn’t seem worth the effort any more. All of that falls to nothing compared to the dislike some people have for the European version of the Mexicans stealing our jobs (hence, far right populism in Europe rising sharply right now) Never mind that none of the ethic Europeans wants to do those jobs in the first place. I’m sure we’ll figure it out in 100 years or so. When everyone will be some variety of brown/yellow/pink.

notacoward 3y ago

> Name any major EU company led by a non-white person. Shell (nominally UK but founded and well known as Royal Dutch Shell) is the largest EU(ish) company, headed by Lebanese-Canadian Wael Sawan. Exor (Italy/Netherlands) is #10, headed by Indian Ajaypal Singh Banga. Please, check your facts before making prejudicial claims again. And don't try "No True Scotsman" because it would just be too funny in this context.

FranzFerdiNaN 3y ago

The UK, one of the largest European countries, is led by someone from Indian descent.

dukeyukey 3y ago

Not EU (and I'm British so I'll stick to the UK), but: * Rishi Sunak is literally our Prime Minister. * Sadiq Khan is the Mayor of London. * Wael Sawan, the CEO of Shell, the biggest UK company, is Lebanese. * C. S. Venkatakrishnan is the CEO of Barclays, HQ'd in London and one of the worlds biggest banks. * Johnny Boufarhat is the founder of Hopin, an online meetings platform that exploded during COVID. While it's in some trouble now and I'm not a fan, Johnny's parents are Lebanese and Syrian, although he's from Australia. Seriously dude, this stuff isn't hard to find. What kind of warped vision do you have of Europe here?

alephnerd 3y ago
I've worked in the UK for decent stints of time. As a brown guy, I have definetly faced much more microaggressions and "do you belong here" type conversations in the UK than I ever have growing up and working in the US. Your comment is the equivalent of saying "Obama was president, blacks don't face racism anymore".
- dukeyukey 3y ago
  My comment was a very specific answer to the line: > Name any major EU company led by a non-white person (although the UK is no longer in the EU) I meant nothing else other than answering that line. If anything, take it up with parent comment, someone who believes non-white people are incapable of running large companies in Europe.
  - alephnerd 3y ago
    Fair enough!