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>This is the kind of internecine conflict I should see in Anime discord servers Anime/furry culture has a significant overlap with the Rust community as far as
by meindnoch 3y ago
>This is the kind of internecine conflict I should see in Anime discord servers
Anime/furry culture has a significant overlap with the Rust community as far as I can tell as an outsider. E.g. there was that guy developing a Linux GPU driver for M1 Macs, narrating it with an anime "waifu" avatar and a speech plugin that makes you sound like a little girl from a Japanese cartoon.
- switch007 3y agoOh that’s what was going on. I was curious but never enough to dig. That’s… interesting. Each to their own I guess
- robin_reala 3y agos/guy/woman
- 2h 3y agouhh: https://youtube.com/watch?v=LonzMviFCNs https://youtube.com/watch?v=LonzMviFCNs
- meindnoch 3y agoHuh? A cursory google search says it's a guy called Hector Marcan. Is this wrong?
- runjake 3y agoAs far as I know, this person, who goes by “Asahi Lina” is not Hector Marcan.
- mustache_kimono 3y agoI think the widespread belief is Asahi Lina is an avatar for Hector.
- runjake 3y agoI'm not sure it's a widespread belief, but I did some quick searches and the circumstantial evidence[1][2] seems to lean toward that. Wow, this is pretty strange[3]. 1. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35251905#35252948 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35251905#35252948 2. Bunches of other threads on HN/Reddit/Twitter. 3. I don't mean this disparagingly.
- conradludgate 3y agoAsahi Lina is the vtuber, not Hector
- meindnoch 3y agoHuh? I'm not sure I follow you. As far as I can tell, this "Asahi Lina" is a cartoon figure, that's used for lip-syncing with a voice effect. Are you saying the real person behind the cartoon is also called "Asahi Lina"?
- conradludgate 3y agoAsahi Lina is who they identify as. It is likely a pseudonym but I see no source for any other name. So I have no reason to believe it's Hector. I would rather not make assumptions about someone beyond what they present themselves as, so as far as I'm concerned, they are Asahi Lina She/Her
- meindnoch 3y agoOk, but we can still make an educated guess on who's behind the fictional cartoon character...
- sangnoir 3y agoTo what end?
- meindnoch 3y agoI'm not sure I understand the question... Because normally you'd want to discuss the work/actions of a human person, not an animated picture? :D
- johnny22 3y agopeople have gone by pseudonyms for ages in the culture around hackers and computers generally. I don't see why we shouldn't do the same here.
- doctoboggan 3y agoI suspect the person you are replying to is thinking of Alyssa Rosenzwig[0] who appears from the outside to be a major contributor to the work, and who's blog posts on the project were followed by the HN crowd. [0]: https://rosenzweig.io/blog/asahi-gpu-part-7.html https://rosenzweig.io/blog/asahi-gpu-part-7.html
- kzrdude 3y agoIt's Asahi Lina that's implied in this case, even if Alyssa also has worked on GPU
- nickitolas 3y agoBlowing the cover on someone's online persona (And using the wrong pronouns for that persona's work) seems pretty rude to me
- meindnoch 3y ago"Blowing the cover" Lol. I just stated what's already out there. It's like "blowing the cover" on the voice actor of Spongebob Squarepants...
- dboat 3y agoNot sure if you are speaking out of knowledge of this particular individual but with respect to other cultures, a biological male presenting as female does not necessarily mean trans the way western cultures think of it. Japanese Okama culture, for instance, is an entirely different animal. I don't know this specific person just thought I'd share that misgendering isn't as black and white as even a lot of trans people think it is.
- robin_reala 3y ago“she/her” on @lina@vt.social
- Kwpolska 3y agoAsahi Lina is widely believed to be a persona of Hector Martin (aka marcan) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35251905 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35251905 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35238601 .
- lynguist 3y agoI never even thought about it before but you’ve convinced me.
- solarkraft 3y agoI have my suspicions about that, but it doesn't change the way they choose to present.
- cvbo 3y ago[flagged]
- warent 3y agoConsidering two of the first commenters in this gist are Kirby and a Dall-E anime girl, sounds like a spot on assessment. Not that people should be shamed for their personal interests! Everyone should imbue some of their personal style in their work, that's how we generate creativity and so forth. That being said, I think the problem is when personal style overlaps too much in what needs more professional separation and distancing. It seems like that can be a recipe for too much ego that creates rifts. There is a risk that we start turning a serious endeavor into a personal project / hobby, or worse just treating it as a joke; leading to situations like: Up until recently, I was part of two private online discussion spaces where a bunch of Rust people hung out.
- meindnoch 3y agoIt can also be pretty off-putting for women to be honest. When someone's avatar is an AI-generated "waifu" picture with deep cleavage, I don't think it looks welcoming for the average female programmer...
- kwhitefoot 3y agoIt's not welcoming to this male programmer either.
- kaba0 3y agoCalling them female is much more off putting. Women is a word.
- Klonoar 3y agoThis... isn't just a Rust thing, it's very common in Linux circles as well. Where do you think the UnixPorn aesthetic of a certain type of background comes from? ;P Note I'm not weighing in on the culture itself, because I don't care - I'm just noting it because it's kind of ridiculous to try and use it to dogpile onto the Rust ecosystem and what it's going through.
- PragmaticPulp 3y agoThe Rust community I’m familiar with is basically like any other group of programming enthusiasts who want to talk about and work with a language. Whatever is going on in Twitter land and with the drama around conferences and boards is a different world, but they aren’t necessarily one and the same.
- mr_00ff00 3y agoI was gonna say, I experience this a lot. Most rust users I meet and see on HN are nice and welcoming. But on twitter, it’s all tribalism and attacking other languages and other people. Gives a distorted figure of what the community really is.
- beezlewax 3y agoI'm glad you stated this.
- 29athrowaway 3y agohttps://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26753812/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26753812/ I guess if your passion is reverse engineering M1 macs and porting Linux to it, for free, there is a decent chance you are highly introverted and perhaps even a savant. If you ask an average software engineer, or even a talented one to do it, most of them won't be able to crack the problem.
- Zafira 3y agoHow does one patch KDE2 under FreeBSD?
- solarkraft 3y agoI assume you're referring to Asahi Lina, who I believe presents as female.
- meindnoch 3y agoThe cartoon is female, but there's a guy behind, right?
- solarkraft 3y agoMaybe it's a dog.
- sophacles 3y agoDoes any of this change the results of the work? If not, can you explain to me like I'm extremely stupid and need a very clear step by step connecting of the dots, why it even remotely matters in the slightest?
- gaws 3y ago> Anime/furry culture has a significant overlap with the Rust community as far as I can tell as an outsider Just look at the official and unofficial Rust servers on Discord.