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I am surprised how people pretend to be outraged over a fork of an open source language. They are outraged by the fork because having a fork reach thousand sta

I am surprised how people pretend to be outraged over a fork of an open source language. They are outraged by the fork because having a fork reach thousand stars so quickly made it harder to ignore the reality that people who love the language were fed up with the leadership. Forking is the essence of open source software. Don't like something somebody else is doing with a software? It's open source, so you do it your way. Also, please allow the crablang people to waste their time the way they want to. Some people watch Netflix, some people will create a fork and learn more about the project. They don't need anyone's permission or approval.

conradludgate 3y ago
When does it change from time wasting to trolling? I've already seen people use it as a way to troll many rust devs sincs it was first created
psychphysic 3y ago
I flicked through the GitHub and website. Is crablang a fork of Rust? Is Rust a plant fungus? Edit: yes and apparently yes. They take great lengths not to name rust which is interesting for a fork.
- Quillbert182 3y ago
  I believe the fork was created in response to a draft of a new trademark policy released by the Rust Foundation which included some portions about where the word “rust” could be used, so they are going out of their way to avoid using the word in order to prove a point.
andrewflnr 3y ago
Forking is a huge resource sink, if it goes anywhere at all. It disrupts network effects that software benefits from. It is, if nothing else, leaving a local maximum of utility for everyone. In short, it's inconvenient, if not actually painful and heralds future inconvenience/pain. Anger may not be wise, depending on the specifics, but it should absolutely not be surprising.
- thesuperbigfrog 3y ago
  Forking might be seen as a form of protest against the current leadership or their failure to address the needs and concerns of the community. If the community does not agree with the leadership's actions (or failure to act) then a fork might be a possible road ahead. Compare: OpenOffice - LibreOffice Jenkins - Hudson MySQL - MariaDB and many others.
  - andrewflnr 3y ago
    Well yes, I assume this is basically a protest, but it's only effective as such because of all the pain stuff. If forks were easy, they wouldn't be notable, and the (threat of) willingness to endure pain is a strong signal of the pain a group is already suffering. Anyway, "it's a protest" is pretty much sufficient in itself to answer the original question of why people might get angry about it. :P
  - unaindz 3y ago
    Openwrt - LEDE, which got merged again into openwrt
- solarkraft 3y ago
  No fork: No change.
- SSLy 3y ago
  Compare and contrast your opinion with EGCS

conradludgate 3y ago

When does it change from time wasting to trolling? I've already seen people use it as a way to troll many rust devs sincs it was first created

psychphysic 3y ago

I flicked through the GitHub and website. Is crablang a fork of Rust? Is Rust a plant fungus? Edit: yes and apparently yes. They take great lengths not to name rust which is interesting for a fork.

Quillbert182 3y ago
I believe the fork was created in response to a draft of a new trademark policy released by the Rust Foundation which included some portions about where the word “rust” could be used, so they are going out of their way to avoid using the word in order to prove a point.

andrewflnr 3y ago

Forking is a huge resource sink, if it goes anywhere at all. It disrupts network effects that software benefits from. It is, if nothing else, leaving a local maximum of utility for everyone. In short, it's inconvenient, if not actually painful and heralds future inconvenience/pain. Anger may not be wise, depending on the specifics, but it should absolutely not be surprising.

thesuperbigfrog 3y ago
Forking might be seen as a form of protest against the current leadership or their failure to address the needs and concerns of the community. If the community does not agree with the leadership's actions (or failure to act) then a fork might be a possible road ahead. Compare: OpenOffice - LibreOffice Jenkins - Hudson MySQL - MariaDB and many others.
- andrewflnr 3y ago
  Well yes, I assume this is basically a protest, but it's only effective as such because of all the pain stuff. If forks were easy, they wouldn't be notable, and the (threat of) willingness to endure pain is a strong signal of the pain a group is already suffering. Anyway, "it's a protest" is pretty much sufficient in itself to answer the original question of why people might get angry about it. :P
- unaindz 3y ago
  Openwrt - LEDE, which got merged again into openwrt
solarkraft 3y ago
No fork: No change.
SSLy 3y ago
Compare and contrast your opinion with EGCS