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Was GPT-4 trained on data that was acquired illegally? Or was it trained on data acquired legally that OpenAI didn't have the rights to redistribute? There is a
by fasterik 3y ago
Was GPT-4 trained on data that was acquired illegally? Or was it trained on data acquired legally that OpenAI didn't have the rights to redistribute? There is a difference. In the latter case, whether it counts as "stealing" would come down to whether or not GPT-4 counts as a derivative work, or some similar legal concept.
- svaha1728 3y agohttps://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/interactive/2023/ai-chatbot-learning/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/interactive/2023/a... Scribd has lots of pdfs of books that are copyrighted. The Washington Post article mentions there are several other places it downloaded and scraped pdfs of copyrighted textbooks, etc
- fasterik 3y agoThat's interesting to know, but that doesn't by itself imply that it's illegal. For example, Google Books, which has massive amounts of scanned PDFs of copyrighted works, is considered fair use under US copyright law.
- still_grokking 3y agoAs long as you don't try to scrape all the book's content… It's only fair use for search purposes.
- fasterik 3y agoIt's fair use if the work is "transformative". GPT-4 isn't publishing the content of the books, it's publishing a model derived from the entire corpus. I'm not a lawyer, but I think there's an argument that it is transformative.
- still_grokking 3y agoImho as transformative as encoding a DVD as DivX… It's correct that OpenAI isn't publishing any of the "stolen" content directly. But they "stole" it to make their service possible in the first place. Not distributing it themself doesn't make much difference than.
- cyanydeez 3y agoThere's no good faith world where OPENAI trained only on legally available works The only valid arguments is whether their model or it's output is itself protected legally.