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What's alarming is that younger orcas are learning how to do it: > Two days earlier, a pod of six orcas assailed another sailboat navigating the strait. Greg B
by helsinkiandrew 3y ago
What's alarming is that younger orcas are learning how to do it:
> Two days earlier, a pod of six orcas assailed another sailboat navigating the strait. Greg Blackburn, who was aboard the vessel, looked on as a mother orca appeared to teach her calf how to charge into the rudder. "It was definitely some form of education, teaching going on,"
https://www.livescience.com/animals/orcas/orcas-have-sunk-3-boats-in-europe-and-appear-to-be-teaching-others-to-do-the-same-but-why https://www.livescience.com/animals/orcas/orcas-have-sunk-3-...
> Experts suspect that a female orca they call White Gladis suffered a "critical moment of agony" — a collision with a boat or entrapment during illegal fishing — that flipped a behavioral switch. "That traumatized orca is the one that started this behavior of physical contact with the boat,"
- paradoxyl 3y agoAlarming? There's 7,000,000,000 humans and only 50,000 orcas left. Who's in the wrong here?
- potatototoo99 3y agoThe orcas. Humans are the apex predator, the orcas better clean their act before we lose our patience.
- slily 3y agoWhat's with the anti-human attitude? Sounds like a lot of the commenters here would rather kill 1000 humans (but of course not you or your family or your friends, maybe just some Spanish fishermen?) than the same number of orcas.
- markhahn 3y agoyou've got it backwards: Earth is not a zero-sum game. "we'd be better off with fewer than 8G people" is not advocating murder, either.
- notmypenguin 3y agoWhat’s with the human centric attitude? Do we own this planet or are we one mammal species on it currently driving the other species towards mass extinction?
- soulofmischief 3y agoIf the trolley problem you're presenting is 1000 orcas or 1000 humans, I'd say it's a no-brainer that the orcas should be preserved.
- Taywee 3y ago8 billion humans as of last November.
- stjohnswarts 3y agoIt's alarming for the whales, I'm afraid humans will kill them out of spite if the attacks increase.
- notmypenguin 3y agoWhat’s happening is that there’s a small sailing craft prohibition on a part of the Galician coast
- bratbag 3y agoAlarming for Orcas. Species that go out of their way to get in our way usually died off before modern times.
- JumpCrisscross 3y agoHave we tried positive intervention? I know it's against marine biologists' code of ethics. But if they're intelligent enough to mount this response, they might be intelligent enough to...erm...reason with? Recondition?
- bobbylarrybobby 3y agoWe do not negotiate with terrorists!
- sacnoradhq 3y agoWe could bribe them with locations that contain more fish and fewer people.
- oblak 3y agoMaybe they don't appreciate the over-fishing and attacking these boats is all they can realistically do. Would anything even change if they were to write a formal letter to the "apex predator"?
- marcellus23 3y ago> if they're intelligent enough to mount this response The idea that this is some sort of planned, coordinated response to overfishing has not been even remotely proven, and is not backed by any researchers. It's just the fanciful thinking of some imaginative HNers. The idea is patently absurd. The boats they're attacking are not even fishing boats.
- wholinator2 3y agoWhat's your threshold to acknowledge this as intentional, intelligent behavior
- marcellus23 3y agoHow about when an actual marine biologist starts thinking so, instead of a computer programmer?