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> The "war on terror" was started by a Republican who invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and continued for nearly 8 more years under a Democrat. And ended by a Repub

> The "war on terror" was started by a Republican who invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and continued for nearly 8 more years under a Democrat. And ended by a Republican

mcculley 3y ago
The Republicans keep saying that Biden improperly withdrew from Afghanistan.
- mc32 3y ago
  One committed the country to the withdrawal the other executed the withdrawal.
- nonethewiser 3y ago
  And Democrats keep pinning it on Trump. Regardless, who is there when they withdrew is not the same as who made the plan and started the withdrawal. The Doha Agreement was drafted and signed under Trump. Biden didnt renege on the agreement and executed it. We have no idea if he would have drafted such an agreement but his track record in that regard isnt good. Obama and Biden increased troops as another commenter noted.
  - mrguyorama 3y ago
    The reality is that there was no path to a good exit from Afganistan, and we should condemn Bush for starting it, condemn Obama for doubling down, condemn Trump for not pulling out earlier, and same for Biden.
mullingitover 3y ago
Afghanistan is a wash, nobody gets to take credit for ending that. Trump entered into the surrender agreement, but delayed the execution of the agreement past the end of his term, so if he doesn't take the blame for the fallout he doesn't get credit for ending it either. Meanwhile Obama surged troops while he was in office, sure, but then tried to steeply draw down and was blocked by republicans[1]. They also blocked his effort to close the human rights embarrassment at Guantanamo[2]. This is basically an 'everyone sucks here' situation, at best. [1] https://thehill.com/homenews/286787-gop-questions-obamas-afghanistan-troop-withdrawal/ https://thehill.com/homenews/286787-gop-questions-obamas-afg... [2] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-defense-guantanamo/house-votes-to-block-obama-plan-to-close-guantanamo-idUSBRE95D12F20130614 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-defense-guantanamo/ho...
- mjevans 3y ago
  Trump, denying they lost the election, refused to support any transfer of power or awareness to the incoming administration as traditionally happens. This combined with the agreement taking effect very shortly after the new term enhanced the scale of the damage, particularly with the new administration's cabinet bootstrapping during the same period.
- nonethewiser 3y ago
  Trump drafted and signed the agreement and Biden executed it. That’s about as fair as you can put it. As you noted, Obama and Biden increased troop count before Trump signed the Doha agreement to end the war.
FrustratedMonky 3y ago
Is Biden a Republican? What president ended the war for you?
- cpursley 3y ago
  Trump started the legal process of ending that war, like him or not.

> The "war on terror" was started by a Republican who invaded Afghanistan and Iraq and continued for nearly 8 more years under a Democrat. And ended by a Republican

mcculley 3y ago

The Republicans keep saying that Biden improperly withdrew from Afghanistan.

mc32 3y ago
One committed the country to the withdrawal the other executed the withdrawal.
nonethewiser 3y ago
And Democrats keep pinning it on Trump. Regardless, who is there when they withdrew is not the same as who made the plan and started the withdrawal. The Doha Agreement was drafted and signed under Trump. Biden didnt renege on the agreement and executed it. We have no idea if he would have drafted such an agreement but his track record in that regard isnt good. Obama and Biden increased troops as another commenter noted.
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  The reality is that there was no path to a good exit from Afganistan, and we should condemn Bush for starting it, condemn Obama for doubling down, condemn Trump for not pulling out earlier, and same for Biden.

mullingitover 3y ago

Afghanistan is a wash, nobody gets to take credit for ending that. Trump entered into the surrender agreement, but delayed the execution of the agreement past the end of his term, so if he doesn't take the blame for the fallout he doesn't get credit for ending it either. Meanwhile Obama surged troops while he was in office, sure, but then tried to steeply draw down and was blocked by republicans[1]. They also blocked his effort to close the human rights embarrassment at Guantanamo[2]. This is basically an 'everyone sucks here' situation, at best. [1] https://thehill.com/homenews/286787-gop-questions-obamas-afghanistan-troop-withdrawal/ https://thehill.com/homenews/286787-gop-questions-obamas-afg... [2] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-defense-guantanamo/house-votes-to-block-obama-plan-to-close-guantanamo-idUSBRE95D12F20130614 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-defense-guantanamo/ho...

mjevans 3y ago
Trump, denying they lost the election, refused to support any transfer of power or awareness to the incoming administration as traditionally happens. This combined with the agreement taking effect very shortly after the new term enhanced the scale of the damage, particularly with the new administration's cabinet bootstrapping during the same period.
nonethewiser 3y ago
Trump drafted and signed the agreement and Biden executed it. That’s about as fair as you can put it. As you noted, Obama and Biden increased troop count before Trump signed the Doha agreement to end the war.

FrustratedMonky 3y ago

Is Biden a Republican? What president ended the war for you?

cpursley 3y ago
Trump started the legal process of ending that war, like him or not.