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I liked the old one vibe more and the way it was carrying the envelope. This post makes some very good points about it https://mastodon.social/@KelvinShadewin
by timetraveller26 3y ago
I liked the old one vibe more and the way it was carrying the envelope.
This post makes some very good points about it
https://mastodon.social/@KelvinShadewing/110424262996045829 https://mastodon.social/@KelvinShadewing/110424262996045829
- romwell 3y agoGood points? Whoever made that post reads too much into things that aren't even true: * Long, sharp beaks are characterestic of nectar feeders, e.g. hummingbird, not "lethal predators". * Hawk's beak is neither large nor particularly sharp; and while hawk is a deadly predator, and the new logo is hawk-like, I can't see the hawk as a bad thing; * Everything else is purely subjective, too. "Dead white eyes convey malice"? OK. Finally, re:"Message is mine, not yours"? Well, that's the entire point of an email client. It keeps the mail, it doesn't live on the server. If that comes through the logo, then it's a job well done. [1] https://www.dkfindout.com/us/animals-and-nature/birds/types-beak/ https://www.dkfindout.com/us/animals-and-nature/birds/types-...
- gruez 3y ago>* Everything else is purely subjective, too. "Dead white eyes convey malice"? OK. It's a well known trope https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ProphetEyes https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ProphetEyes
- wiseowise 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbird_(mythology) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thunderbird_(mythology) > It is considered a supernatural being of power and strength https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ProphetEyes https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ProphetEyes > And sometimes, white eyes simply alert the audience that their owner is supernatural Ok?
- Biganon 3y ago> Finally, re:"Message is mine, not yours"? Well, that's the entire point of an email client. It keeps the mail, it doesn't live on the server. ? Most people use IMAP accounts nowadays
- StingyJelly 3y agoTrue but thunderbird's local folders are my favorite way to move thebacklog off the server. (Not sure how widespread that usecase is)
- romwell 3y agoSure, but having an offline copy with IMAP allows one to not depend on the server to work with your email. And if your account goes poof, you still have all your messages.
- JohnFen 3y ago> Everything else is purely subjective, too. Well, sure. Nearly anything anyone has to say about the logo is purely subjective. That's the way of art.
- sodapopcan 3y agoHa, interesting points, but it's all a matter of perspective. I would much rather that the bird delivering my mail is a badass who can protect it at all costs. Perhaps the protective "MINE" body language is aimed at someone trying to intercept my mail, not at me. This is a much better scenario than a fake-ass overly friendly bird. Also, the old logo always made me a little uncomfortable—it looks like the bird is mid flight, but the moment it flaps its wings up it's dropping that letter!!!
- steve1977 3y agoBut Thunderbird is just a Mail User Agent, not a Mail Transfer Agent. So it doesn’t have much say in protecting your mail delivery anyway.
- bayindirh 3y agoIt can encrypt your mail with the help of his old friend, GPG (or PGP, whichever you prefer).
- NoGravitas 3y agoOr, on Android, OpenKeychain.
- gowld 3y agoThe attitude matters, not the reality.
- amelius 3y ago> I would much rather that the bird delivering my mail is a badass who can protect it at all costs Sorry, but the bird in the new logo looks like a baby bird.
- sodapopcan 3y agoIt's ok, you don't have to be sorry.
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- Kiro 3y agoPlease tell me that post is parody.
- colourgarden 3y agoWait till he finds out where they culturally misappropriated the name Thunderbird from!
- scarygliders 3y agoI always thought the old/current Thunderbird logo looked like an envelope wearing a wig.
- tsukurimashou 3y agohaha I'm glad someone said it, it always bothered me I guess no matter how good the design is, you have to think about how it looks in 16x16 & 32x32 when most people only see the logo when they look at the tiny icon on their desktop
- korm 3y agoI always saw Nicolas Cage with bird hair https://i.imgur.com/tRCXkzp.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tRCXkzp.jpg
- scarygliders 3y agoThat too. One of my all-time favourite memes.
- AndrewChamp 3y agoIndeed. The new one is nice but at a quick glance it looks like it's carrying a clock, not an envelope.
- soraminazuki 3y agoAll of the points given seem petty and overly aggressive. Isn't it enough to say that he doesn't like it?
- detaro 3y agoThen they'd be "hating on it with no reason".
- account42 3y agoOr as is the most common response to criticism for these pointless redesigns "just hate change and will get used to it".
- soraminazuki 3y agoDo you really consider "Wings wrapped possesively around message says 'it's mine, not yours'" a well though-out reason? That's not feedback, and more like just being mean. If that post mentioned an actual reason, I sure missed it. I'm saying this as a person who likes the old icon better.
- detaro 3y agoI think giving reasons (even if I disagree with them/don't feel the same way) is better than just saying "I don't like it", yes.