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Apple was a disaster, riding on the coattails of the Apple II, prior to the ousting of Jobs. The Apple III was both an engineering and market failure. The Lisa

by II2II 3y ago

Apple was a disaster, riding on the coattails of the Apple II, prior to the ousting of Jobs. The Apple III was both an engineering and market failure. The Lisa was an engineering and market failure. The future of the Macintosh was by no means guaranteed. Whether he was the cause of the problems within Apple or a symptom of it is open for debate, but he certainly wasn't helping matters. Just consider how the Macintosh the world grew to love came to be. I don't know the story of Jobs well enough to pinpoint what had changed over the intervening years, but something clearly did change. He had and maintained the confidence of the company. He was able to restore confidence of the consumer. There was a clear succession plan when he passed away, avoiding the turmoil that Apple saw after his ousting in the 1980's. This was not the same man, even if he maintained his abrasive edge.

AdamN 3y ago
The thing that saved Apple was the retirement of Classic Mac OS in favor of the NeXT OS (OS X and now MacOS). In the early 2000s, developers were building for the Internet and there were only two options for hosting: Windows NT and Solaris. The licensing for both was prohibitive (and just annoying) and so Linux/FreeBSD started getting traction on the server side. FreeBSD didn't have the hardware adoption so faded (but is still loved). Linux had enough hardware support to run serious servers but the desktop never was usable (the year of the Linux desktop!). Having OS X being a UNIX-variant was 'close enough' to develop on Mac (a very usable desktop) and deploy on Linux. Then, Windows released Vista which was so broken that developers simply had to move to Mac in order to be able to function. That progression is why Mac went from almost dying to being the most valuable company on Earth.
- throwaway2990 3y ago
  > Then, Windows released Vista which was so broken Why do people still continue to spread this misconception?
  - AdamN 3y ago
    I lived it - that was the straw that broke my back. I can't speak for others but for me that's a first-person experience. Edit: Just to add, like many professional developers at the time, we were driven from Windows just as much as we were pulled in by OS X.
    - throwaway2990 3y ago
      I lived it and it was never as bad as people make out to be.
      - AdamN 3y ago
        What OS do you use now?

by II2II 3y ago

AdamN 3y ago

The thing that saved Apple was the retirement of Classic Mac OS in favor of the NeXT OS (OS X and now MacOS). In the early 2000s, developers were building for the Internet and there were only two options for hosting: Windows NT and Solaris. The licensing for both was prohibitive (and just annoying) and so Linux/FreeBSD started getting traction on the server side. FreeBSD didn't have the hardware adoption so faded (but is still loved). Linux had enough hardware support to run serious servers but the desktop never was usable (the year of the Linux desktop!). Having OS X being a UNIX-variant was 'close enough' to develop on Mac (a very usable desktop) and deploy on Linux. Then, Windows released Vista which was so broken that developers simply had to move to Mac in order to be able to function. That progression is why Mac went from almost dying to being the most valuable company on Earth.

throwaway2990 3y ago
> Then, Windows released Vista which was so broken Why do people still continue to spread this misconception?
- AdamN 3y ago
  I lived it - that was the straw that broke my back. I can't speak for others but for me that's a first-person experience. Edit: Just to add, like many professional developers at the time, we were driven from Windows just as much as we were pulled in by OS X.
  - throwaway2990 3y ago
    I lived it and it was never as bad as people make out to be.
    - AdamN 3y ago
      What OS do you use now?