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It seems more likely that they/their understood the GP to be projecting unrelated political grievances on this usage issue without having the courage to just ut

It seems more likely that they/their understood the GP to be projecting unrelated political grievances on this usage issue without having the courage to just utter them. What exactly is the "top" in this top-down relationship?

paganel 3y ago
It’s not unreasonable to think that whatever we say on this forum can be tracked to our real identity, and as such to our prospects of current and future employment. I feel that other people in here might feel that saying things out the way they really think might be detrimental to their employment status and hence to their well-being. In this respect it is a top-down imposition, it is true, with the “top” not being defined as a specific person or a specific group of persons. And going a little meta, it’s high time for the hosts of this forum to implement a delete functionality.
- pjc50 3y ago
  > with the “top” not being defined as a specific person or a specific group of persons. So you're blaming a nebulous .. them?
- emodendroket 3y ago
  If you really think it's so outre you face being blackballed for having the wrong opinion then probably going on about the shadowy forces not letting you state your opinion isn't that wise either, but I think that's an absurd level of paranoia.
  - krageon 3y ago
    To be fair, the opinion could be so heinous that it would get anyone blackballed almost anywhere. A case could be made the opinion is so bad, that even implying it exists and letting the reader fantasise about how bad it is will not land them even close to the disaster that it really is. I must admit, I've woven a hypothetical so thick I'm starting to be curious about what the opinion could be. It was meant a little tongue in cheek though :)
    - emodendroket 3y ago
      If we’re imagining things that would be toxic enough that a substantial chunk of employers would steer clear of you, probably unambiguous hate speech is the biggest one.
  - paganel 3y ago
    Quoting things out from an anatomy manual, for example, that can nowadays get you fired. Donating to the wrong political movements based on those beliefs/quotes/written down facts is another example, even CEOs from our industr have lost their job because of it. The paranoia dismissal should be left out of an honest discussion.
    - emodendroket 3y ago
      If you’re as worried as you claim to be you should probably be aware that from this comment chain I can pretty easily infer your political views.

paganel 3y ago

It’s not unreasonable to think that whatever we say on this forum can be tracked to our real identity, and as such to our prospects of current and future employment. I feel that other people in here might feel that saying things out the way they really think might be detrimental to their employment status and hence to their well-being. In this respect it is a top-down imposition, it is true, with the “top” not being defined as a specific person or a specific group of persons. And going a little meta, it’s high time for the hosts of this forum to implement a delete functionality.

pjc50 3y ago
> with the “top” not being defined as a specific person or a specific group of persons. So you're blaming a nebulous .. them?
emodendroket 3y ago
If you really think it's so outre you face being blackballed for having the wrong opinion then probably going on about the shadowy forces not letting you state your opinion isn't that wise either, but I think that's an absurd level of paranoia.
- krageon 3y ago
  To be fair, the opinion could be so heinous that it would get anyone blackballed almost anywhere. A case could be made the opinion is so bad, that even implying it exists and letting the reader fantasise about how bad it is will not land them even close to the disaster that it really is. I must admit, I've woven a hypothetical so thick I'm starting to be curious about what the opinion could be. It was meant a little tongue in cheek though :)
  - emodendroket 3y ago
    If we’re imagining things that would be toxic enough that a substantial chunk of employers would steer clear of you, probably unambiguous hate speech is the biggest one.
- paganel 3y ago
  Quoting things out from an anatomy manual, for example, that can nowadays get you fired. Donating to the wrong political movements based on those beliefs/quotes/written down facts is another example, even CEOs from our industr have lost their job because of it. The paranoia dismissal should be left out of an honest discussion.
  - emodendroket 3y ago
    If you’re as worried as you claim to be you should probably be aware that from this comment chain I can pretty easily infer your political views.