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I like the modern strategy of doing to politicians what they let or perpetrate on others, but I think we'll have a hard time finding some cops to point a bunch

I like the modern strategy of doing to politicians what they let or perpetrate on others, but I think we'll have a hard time finding some cops to point a bunch of cameras at senators & Supreme Court justices. The technical capabilities of state-based Survelliance keep rising. Just buying the data corporations keep on us seems like the absurd new main mode. Ring cameras, for example. Having the police themselves doing the spying, as here, seems almost old hat. But what absurd data they can get, given the high heights of technology we have flown to.

rasz 3y ago
They dont have to be mounted by cops, do they? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtBMkg8G5tQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtBMkg8G5tQ
- mfer 3y ago
  In most places there are limits to who can put things on poles. For example, where I live it’s the local municipality, utilities, telephone companies, and cable companies. That’s it.
  - giantg2 3y ago
    Usually those are the parties required to have access to them. Whichever party owns/maintains the poles can usually grant access to additonal parties if they see fit.
nonethewiser 3y ago
They are judges not politicians. Other than that, fair enough
justinclift 3y ago
Hmmm, how feasible do you reckon it would be to start using the same "buy data from third parties" on these senators and Supreme Court judges? And probably do the same for the (registered) lobbyists and political donors, then look for after hours instances where the data shows their location being very close / overlapping. Or something along those lines anyway. Would probably take a bunch more thinking about + some test investigation. ;)
- noisy_boy 3y ago
  Problem is that activists haven't kept up with the technology. What is the point of shouting with placards when you can invest the donations to setting up legitimate companies that can do data collection on the lawmakers, following the current law, and then just publicize it. See how quickly the law changes (though instead of changes for the general public, it'll probably be in terms of just adding exclusionary clauses for lawmakers e.g. like how insider trading is rampant among them and nobody gets thrown into jail for doing it while I have to sit through yearly preaching organized by my company about what a terrible, horrible, bad thing it is).

rasz 3y ago

They dont have to be mounted by cops, do they? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtBMkg8G5tQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtBMkg8G5tQ

mfer 3y ago
In most places there are limits to who can put things on poles. For example, where I live it’s the local municipality, utilities, telephone companies, and cable companies. That’s it.
- giantg2 3y ago
  Usually those are the parties required to have access to them. Whichever party owns/maintains the poles can usually grant access to additonal parties if they see fit.

nonethewiser 3y ago

They are judges not politicians. Other than that, fair enough

justinclift 3y ago

Hmmm, how feasible do you reckon it would be to start using the same "buy data from third parties" on these senators and Supreme Court judges? And probably do the same for the (registered) lobbyists and political donors, then look for after hours instances where the data shows their location being very close / overlapping. Or something along those lines anyway. Would probably take a bunch more thinking about + some test investigation. ;)

noisy_boy 3y ago
Problem is that activists haven't kept up with the technology. What is the point of shouting with placards when you can invest the donations to setting up legitimate companies that can do data collection on the lawmakers, following the current law, and then just publicize it. See how quickly the law changes (though instead of changes for the general public, it'll probably be in terms of just adding exclusionary clauses for lawmakers e.g. like how insider trading is rampant among them and nobody gets thrown into jail for doing it while I have to sit through yearly preaching organized by my company about what a terrible, horrible, bad thing it is).