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Yea let’s just kick people to the streets and let the “autonomous drivers” take over. Any “value” spent on humans is then gobbled up by a mega corporation. The
by xyst 3y ago
Yea let’s just kick people to the streets and let the “autonomous drivers” take over. Any “value” spent on humans is then gobbled up by a mega corporation. The ultra wealthy get wealthier. Will anybody please think of the shareholders!!!!1
The optics on this are totally not absolute dog shit.
- eptcyka 3y agoLow-paying jobs don't exist to let poor people have jobs. Low paying jobs, among a wealth of other things, keep poor people poor.
- snoochyboochies 3y agoUnemployed is the lowest paying job possible.
- asynchronous 3y agoDon’t tell HN that, it would make them upset.
- jorvi 3y agoShunting away low-paying (usually with low education requirement) jobs doesn’t magically move people up the job totem pole. Those people need to be retrained, and during that training they still need to make a living, preferably above subsistence level.
- panarky 3y agoYea let's just keep workers in such a precarious state that they not only must sell their labor for pennies, but incredibly they must now supply the capital to the corporation, all to do a job that isn't even necessary for a human to do, is hazardous for the worker and the public, and generates tremendous amounts of pollution. Why the "optics" aren't already absolute dog shit is left as an exercise for the reader.
- morelisp 3y agoNow we will generate the pollution without having to pay anyone anything! Progress!
- freejazz 3y agoThis is a strawman. He's advocating that things shouldn't become worse than they are, you are ignoring that point and instead just talking about how bad things are now (without any regard to how worse this would make it).
- panarky 3y agoNo. I'm arguing that a clean, electric fleet of autonomous cars, that would maim and kill far fewer people, where the capital is provided by the corporation instead of being extracted from workers through deception, would be a vast improvement over the status quo. We don't need to perpetuate a system of pollution, exploitation, injury, death just so workers can busy themselves performing unnecessary tasks for starvation wages.
- chpatrick 3y agoOn the other hand poor people who can't afford car ownership would get much more mobility and access to jobs and services if really cheap autonomous car sharing takes off.
- dang 3y agoCan you please make your substantive points without fulmination or flamewar? That's always possible, and we're trying for something else on this site. I know these topics are important and the feelings are understandable but the problem is that on an online forum, this kind of rhetoric becomes just-more-internet-drama-noise, which doesn't do anybody any good and drowns out the quieter, more curious conversation we're hoping for here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html