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The interesting part it isn't even needed for this walk to organise. We don't need unions like we used to, some online admin at most is enough

• clipsy 3y ago
  That sounds lovely, but I think you're getting a bit ahead of yourself. They haven't actually won any concessions or really accomplished anything yet; they haven't even demonstrated a reasonably successful walkout yet (we'll see whether they can manage that on the day of). For what it's worth, though, I hope your optimism is justified.
• jasonhansel 3y ago
  Unions get a large number of legal protections that aren't available otherwise.
• olliej 3y ago
  how are you organizing thing online? how do you contact people? how do you choose policy? How do you support people who aren't being paid due to a strike? What is it you think unions are doing, that they don't need to do now?
• runarberg 3y ago
  No, we need them more than we used to. Back before the National Labor Relations Board unions were unregulated and collective action was unprotected. Unions were more like activist groups (think if BLM had a leadership structure and memberships). During strikes unions had to build solidarity and convince every worker to join. Strikers had to physically prevent scabs from entering the workplace, often with violence. Now it is simply illegal to scab. With today’s militarized police there is no way we could return to the era before NLRB and hope for success. We can, and we should organize outside of unions, but the goal should ultimately be to form a union, and benefit from all the protections you get from having one.
  • olliej 3y ago
    It's important when talking about violence and unions, we have to also consider the other side, where police and private security use violence against workers. Numerous strikes were "broken" by law enforcement, various "national guards", and "strike breakers" shooting into crowds of strikers. On multiple occasions 50 or more were killed, and hundreds injured.