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The alternative route people would prefer is for people in charge of these companies to act ethically and not try to squeeze everyone around them for every cent

The alternative route people would prefer is for people in charge of these companies to act ethically and not try to squeeze everyone around them for every cent of profit possible. Especially if you're already one of the richest companies to ever exist. That's not very realistic, though, since sociopathy is essentially taught in business schools now.

phone8675309 3y ago
If you work full time at federal minimum wage then you qualify for food stamps and other government assistance. Walmart took it a step further - they have information for their employees on how to do that efficiently, rather than paying a living wage.
HollywoodZro 3y ago
> people in charge of these companies to act ethically and not try to squeeze everyone around them for every cent of profit possible That's our stock market though. If Walmart isn't squeezing on costs, then it needs to make that up in gross revenue otherwise the stock will suffer. Is it possible to be "ethical" in how you define it, when the financial market performance of the company is largely dependent on this?
smabie 3y ago
Everyone is trying to squeeze everyone else, including you. This isn't about sociopathy, this is just the human condition.
- thatguy0900 3y ago
  And yet somehow, not too long ago before the sociopaths were allowed to squeeze people, it was possible to buy a house and have a family on one income and your local grocery store could make that happen for it's employees. Now Walmart will literally openly admit full time employees cannot make enough to survive and teach their own full time employees how to beg the government for enough resources to live.
- actionfromafar 3y ago
  Then we are just blind mice in the maze and can just as well stop talking now. Excuse me, I have some carbon to release into the atmosphere.
webmobdev 3y ago
Doesn't Toyota do something like that - from what I remember, they actually assist their partner-supplier-small-businesses to grow with soft loans, technical help and business advise?
nicoburns 3y ago
This. And I'd add, we'd like a legal environment that rewards people and companies who act in this way over those companies that act unethically in pursuit of profit.
- mbesto 3y ago
  So, what corporation pursuit should be deemed ethical if not profit then?
mbesto 3y ago
Ok, so I agree with any ethics around how people are treated, but a corporation? All this does is squashes Wistron potential profit, no? Are there ethics around how much companies should profit? Should all companies profits be equal? > Especially if you're already one of the richest companies to ever exist. How do you think they got there in the first place?

phone8675309 3y ago

If you work full time at federal minimum wage then you qualify for food stamps and other government assistance. Walmart took it a step further - they have information for their employees on how to do that efficiently, rather than paying a living wage.

HollywoodZro 3y ago

> people in charge of these companies to act ethically and not try to squeeze everyone around them for every cent of profit possible That's our stock market though. If Walmart isn't squeezing on costs, then it needs to make that up in gross revenue otherwise the stock will suffer. Is it possible to be "ethical" in how you define it, when the financial market performance of the company is largely dependent on this?

smabie 3y ago

Everyone is trying to squeeze everyone else, including you. This isn't about sociopathy, this is just the human condition.

thatguy0900 3y ago
And yet somehow, not too long ago before the sociopaths were allowed to squeeze people, it was possible to buy a house and have a family on one income and your local grocery store could make that happen for it's employees. Now Walmart will literally openly admit full time employees cannot make enough to survive and teach their own full time employees how to beg the government for enough resources to live.
actionfromafar 3y ago
Then we are just blind mice in the maze and can just as well stop talking now. Excuse me, I have some carbon to release into the atmosphere.

webmobdev 3y ago

Doesn't Toyota do something like that - from what I remember, they actually assist their partner-supplier-small-businesses to grow with soft loans, technical help and business advise?

nicoburns 3y ago

This. And I'd add, we'd like a legal environment that rewards people and companies who act in this way over those companies that act unethically in pursuit of profit.

mbesto 3y ago
So, what corporation pursuit should be deemed ethical if not profit then?

mbesto 3y ago

Ok, so I agree with any ethics around how people are treated, but a corporation? All this does is squashes Wistron potential profit, no? Are there ethics around how much companies should profit? Should all companies profits be equal? > Especially if you're already one of the richest companies to ever exist. How do you think they got there in the first place?