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I think the right has seized on trans people because it's become socially unacceptable to go after gay people (at least directly), so going after trans people i
by api 3y ago
I think the right has seized on trans people because it's become socially unacceptable to go after gay people (at least directly), so going after trans people is a substitute. "Othering" some group and uniting people against them is powerful brain stem stuff, and elections these days are won or lost on turnout rather than changing anyone's mind.
I'm not sure what they're going to do when there aren't any groups left to "other." They might have to argue for their ideas and policies on reason and merit. That's gonna be hard. It's a lot harder to convince the neocortex with reason than to rally the limbic system with outrage porn.
It's gross of course. It's using people for political cannon fodder. At least the left mostly just tries to scare me and make me hate right-wing politicians, which is like striking a military target rather than a civilian target.
I hate the culture war in general. It's a godsend to incompetent politicians. All they have to do is grunt correctly on culture war issues and they don't have to actually deliver anything of substance or solve any real problems.
- Veen 3y agoThe most vociferous "anti-trans" people tend to be left-leaning feminists, in my experience.
- cashmonster 3y agoThe article is clearly about political and legislative anti-trans machinations though, not TERFs at dinner parties or whatever. In that context it’s the right that is the issue.
- howinteresting 3y agoThe organized TERF movement and the far-right trans eliminationist movement are one and the same. For example, the Women's Liberation Front (WoLF), which brands itself as a left-wing group, has been working with the people pushing bills: https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1634287701896712207/photo/1 https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1634287701896712207...
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- howinteresting 3y agoTarring an entire group of humans, one that has been attested in history for thousands of years, as pretenders, is beyond incurious. It is cruel. We're talking in the comments of a (flagged) post by a young trans woman. The bile you are posting is a demonstration of your low, low character.
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- ribit 3y agoAnd your comment might even be relevant if “left-leaning feminists” were a non-fringe political power threatening to take over legislative, executive, and judicial branches of power. We have real problems to deal with, not some imaginary “bad feminism”.
- fmnst 3y agoFeminism advocating for women as a sex caste fighting for their rights in a male-dominated world is the only type of feminism that makes any sense. Everything else is, to varying extents, pandering to male wants and desires.
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- tombert 3y agoI don't know; it seems like DeSantis and his ilk are pretty happy to just directly go after gay people under the guise of calling them "groomers". I mentioned this here a few weeks ago, but part of the reason that my wife and I have dismissed the idea of moving to Florida (despite us both having family there) is because she's planning on becoming a biology teacher, and the broad and idiotic "don't say gay" law in Florida is likely to make our lives extremely unpleasant if she taught there.
- hersko 3y agoWhat specifically in the "don't say gay" law are you against?
- tombert 3y agoThe fact that it allows basically any parent to sue to the teacher for mentioning basically anything involving sexual orientation, the fact that it doesn't really define what is disallowed, the fact that it was extended all the way until twelfth grade, the fact that there's little repercussions for a parent lying or embellishing. ETA: Oh, also, because it's basically predicated on a homophobic conspiracy about gay people all being out to groom your children.
- hersko 3y agoI'm just looking at the bill [1]. It seems like a very straight forward reinforcement of a parents rights to oversee the education of their kids. > any parent to sue to the teacher for mentioning basically anything involving sexual orientation "prohibiting a school district from encouraging classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in primary grade levels or in a specified manner. ..... to adhere to standards developed by the department of education." Presumably they can only sue if the teacher is going against whatever the normal standards are. > little repercussions for a parent lying or embellishing I don't know what you mean here, but presumably if the parents take a teacher to court and lose (because they lied/embellished) they would have just wasted their legal fees. > homophobic conspiracy about gay people all being out to groom your children Not sure about this. I think the bill came out before the whole groomer thing. [1] https://www.scribd.com/document/559840370/House-Bill-1557-Don-t-Say-Gay# https://www.scribd.com/document/559840370/House-Bill-1557-Do...
- ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago> I'm not sure what they're going to do when there aren't any groups left to "other." Sadly, this will never happen. We've been at this for tens of thousands of years, and we always find "others." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANNX_XiuA78 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANNX_XiuA78
- LV123 3y ago> I'm not sure what they're going to do when there aren't any groups left to "other." There's always going to be an "other". If necessary, some arbitrary social divide will be invented. Most of the "groups" we've split ourselves into are not particularly meaningful to begin with, and it doesn't take much to become an outsider when people really want there to be outsiders.
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