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Nothing stops you from watching porn in the Quest web browser. It has private browsing mode like every other browser. I don’t think this is the killer app for

by pavlov 3y ago

Nothing stops you from watching porn in the Quest web browser. It has private browsing mode like every other browser. I don’t think this is the killer app for headsets though, unless maybe someone comes up with a volumetric production pipeline for truly immersive participatory experiences…

amelius 3y ago
How do I know if activating private mode in the Quest web browser is not equivalent to sending a signal to Meta that "now extra juicy information is coming in"?
- pavlov 3y ago
  How do you know activating private mode in Chrome isn’t doing the same with Google? After all that’s their business model too.
  - amelius 3y ago
    Good question, that's why I use Firefox ;)
- sebzim4500 3y ago
  Becuase the stuff people use private browsing for is useless information for Meta. Why do you believe that Zuckerberg wants to see your porn preferences?
- jayd16 3y ago
  You can packet sniff it if you're really concerned, no? There's been no evidence for what you suggest.
  - amelius 3y ago
    What if the packets are kept on disk and sent only when not in private mode?
    - smoldesu 3y ago
      What if the headset has a 4G modem built-in and sends telemetry that way? What if the next-gen Quest has a Starlink receiver in the SOC? Ostensibly it doesn't matter. Apple's headset won't be any different, both companies will encrypt their traffic and insist it's meaningless telemetry. If these companies want to spy on you, they will - they own your hardware more than you do. Without a verifiable, open boot process you're basically just throwing stones from a glass house. If you want paranoia-tier VR computing, get a Valve Index and an airgapped Nvidia/Linux workstation. It would probably still be cheaper than Apple's complete product (somehow). Whatever the case, I'd bet the farm on Apple's new headset shipping with OCSP telemetry out-of-box.

by pavlov 3y ago

amelius 3y ago

How do I know if activating private mode in the Quest web browser is not equivalent to sending a signal to Meta that "now extra juicy information is coming in"?

pavlov 3y ago
How do you know activating private mode in Chrome isn’t doing the same with Google? After all that’s their business model too.
- amelius 3y ago
  Good question, that's why I use Firefox ;)
sebzim4500 3y ago
Becuase the stuff people use private browsing for is useless information for Meta. Why do you believe that Zuckerberg wants to see your porn preferences?
jayd16 3y ago
You can packet sniff it if you're really concerned, no? There's been no evidence for what you suggest.
- amelius 3y ago
  What if the packets are kept on disk and sent only when not in private mode?
  - smoldesu 3y ago
    What if the headset has a 4G modem built-in and sends telemetry that way? What if the next-gen Quest has a Starlink receiver in the SOC? Ostensibly it doesn't matter. Apple's headset won't be any different, both companies will encrypt their traffic and insist it's meaningless telemetry. If these companies want to spy on you, they will - they own your hardware more than you do. Without a verifiable, open boot process you're basically just throwing stones from a glass house. If you want paranoia-tier VR computing, get a Valve Index and an airgapped Nvidia/Linux workstation. It would probably still be cheaper than Apple's complete product (somehow). Whatever the case, I'd bet the farm on Apple's new headset shipping with OCSP telemetry out-of-box.