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Hitler’s Antarctic base: the myth and the reality (2007) [pdf]
- pfannkuchen 3y agoThis seriously needs a Call of Duty game.
- ttoinou 3y agoWolfenstein ;)
- aww_dang 3y agoA novel featuring some of these themes would be nice this weekend.
- wrp 3y agoOperation Antarctica (https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Antarctica-William-Meikle/dp/1925711528 https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Antarctica-William-Meikle/d...)
- chickenimprint 3y agoIsn't that one of the main plot points in Call of Duty: Black Ops? Not to spoil the game, but there is a mission on that base and what they discover is of huge importance. One of the best video games in terms of story telling.
- lfkdev 3y agoI also had fun playing it, but Call of Duty is not one of the best games in story telling. I suggest you to try out games like Diso Elysium or Outer Wilds.
- ilamont 3y agoor Half Life 2.
- dudul 3y agoTo each their own, but while some COD games are epic (the original MW campaign gave me chills at times) the story telling is often pretty bad.
- chickenimprint 3y agoI thought the original MW was a bit bland. I honestly only remember Black Ops well, and I would defend it as the only game of the series that would do well as a piece of fiction writing on it's own.
- strken 3y agoWhich did you play first? The original MW campaign was cursed by its own success, because a lot of the story elements that were original at the time of publication became cliches as later games copied and expanded them, and the subversion of expectations doesn't work now that our expectations have changed. The helicopter crash is a good example. The heroic, patriotic, and slightly comedic Marines go back for a wounded comrade, and then...their entire squad dies in a nuclear blast because they didn't evac quickly enough. Or the plucky SAS seize the only man who can give them the intel they're after, and then...commit a war crime and torture him, which turns out to be pointless when they get the information from another source anyway, so they commit another war crime and execute him in cold blood. The helicopter scene was genuinely shocking at the time, even though tragically killing off your heroes in the middle of the game is widespread today. I felt the original Modern Warfare was the only Call of Duty that married the horrors of war from the first two games[0] to the Tom Clancy action of the later ones. Black Ops seemed more jingoistic and less willing to make the player uncomfortable, while in later games missions like No Russian that were meant to shock the player didn't combine it with anything philosophically unsettling (like the idea that "no man left behind" might get a much larger number of people killed). That being said, I think a lot of what I got out of the game was due to where I was in life when I first played it, so it might just be sentiment tinting my memories. [0] We don't mention 3.
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- Paul-Craft 3y agoI was just thinking, just change the location to the Arctic, add a little mystical time travel mumbo jumbo[0] to jump the Nazis forward to the Silver age[1], and you've got yourself a recipe for a fun Superman crossover at the Fortress of Solitude. --- [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_Society https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_Society [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortress_of_Solitude#Original_version https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortress_of_Solitude#Original_...
- Throe38949 3y agoWhy time jump mumbo jumbo, whan you have real fighting nazis on backyard at current time? They could really use Captain Marvell or anything that can fly!
- zabzonk 3y agofor a novel, how about Charles Stross' "The Atrocity Archives" - somewhere much colder and more frightening.
- fmajid 3y agoThat almost makes you feel bad for the Nazis (and Stross is Jewish).
- exabrial 3y agoThe original Call of Duty games for PC told WWII history stories very well. I really enjoyed them and it got me interested in learning more about the era. Unfortunately the MW series of games lost this which I think was a shame. Different goals though than the original franchise I guess. They really ought to have a series as told from the POV of multiple countries, in the likes of the original series. I would really like to have a historical take on COD from a French resistance perspective. I’m not sure sure that’s fly in todays market. Video games back in the day were a bit off a treat, took 5-10m to start, not something you could whip out your smart phone and play anytime anywhere.
- zgs 3y agoI did expect a title along the lines of: "Hitler predicted global warming decades earlier than the rest of the world".
- pjc50 3y ago" it is no longer difficult to separate fact from fancy, despite the fact that many find it attractive not to do so" -- end of the abstract. Nonetheless fascinating reading.
- Paul-Craft 3y ago> [I]t is no longer difficult to separate fact from fancy, despite the fact that many find it attractive not to do so. I have no idea what use I'll put it to, but I'm stealing that.
- 93po 3y agoI find it interesting how easily people take evidence at face value. It's incredibly easy to poke holes in the debunking of all this. 1. U-Boats couldn't get through sea ice to Antarctica: what if they were modified? What if the specs for u-boats used to assert this was wrong? What if there was a path through the sea ice that was classified? The list goes on forever 2. SAS men in the region at the time had civilian jobs: Says who? At a glance they're basing this off of civilian contracts with these men's names on them. This is easily faked 3. Operation Highjump was designed to train the US Navy for a possible war with the Soviet Union in the Arctic: Again, says who? Based on documentation provided by the government themselves? Ultimately it boils down to this: "Activities that were classified have subsequently been declassified" Given how much subterfuge and psyops the US government has provably done throughout its history, doctoring and faking declassified documents is something they have assuredly done. There is definitely a long, rich history of destroying documents.
- ggm 3y agoMichael Moorcock got there with "the final programme" (1965) albeit Arctic not Antarctic. Hello Jerry.
- dark-star 3y agoWell, everyone knows that the secret Nazi base is on the far side of the moon, not in Antarctica... ;-)
- guggle 3y agoYes, and the Führer rides a T-Rex !
- layer8 3y agoThey are probably collaborating with the Chinese now since Chang'e 4.
- belter 3y agoThey are not a threat anymore. It is there on the other side of the Moon. Since they stopped receiving orders from Oberkommando, they spend most of their time polishing their Swastikas, and discussing how, based on moon time, really is time for Oktoberfest...
- simonh 3y agoThere used to be three, those two are still there, but the one under Ukraine got taken over by the CIA for their bioweapons program.
- TMWNN 3y agoYes, there is a Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nazi_moon_base https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nazi_moon_base
- thr-nrg 3y ago>ABSTRACT. In January-February 1939, a secret German expedition visited Dronning (or Queen) Maud Land, Antarctica, apparently with the intention inter alia of establishing a base there. Between 1943 and 1945 the British launched a secret wartime Antarctic operation, code-named Tabarin. Men from the Special Air Services Regiment (SAS), Britain’s covert forces for operating behind the lines, appeared to be involved. In July and August 1945, after the German surrender, two U-boats arrived in Argentina. Had they been to Antarctica to land Nazi treasure or officials? >In the southern summer of 1946–1947, the US Navy appeared to ‘invade’ Antarctica using a large force. The operation, code-named Highjump, was classified confidential. In 1958, three nuclear weapons were exploded in the region, as part of another classified US operation, code-named Argus. I want to play this video game.
- tnel77 3y agoYeah this would be an awesome game, movie and/or book. Sign me up.
- fmajid 3y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Station_Zebra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Station_Zebra
- photochemsyn 3y agoThe Nazi base is set in the heart of Lovecraft's Mountains of Madness, with lots of side adventures.... > ""Operation Deep Frost" is a thrilling first-person shooter game set in the desolate, frozen landscape of Antarctica. Inspired by H.P. Lovecraft's "Mountains of Madness," the game combines the chilling atmosphere of Lovecraftian horror with intense action-packed gameplay. Players embark on a dangerous mission to infiltrate a secret Nazi base hidden within the ancient, otherworldly mountains and uncover the dark secrets that lie within."
- axpy906 3y agoSo this information about Highjump was never declassified?
- hello_computer 3y ago"The aim of art is to represent not the outward appearance of things, but their inward significance." - Aristotle "Fiction is a certain packaging of the truth, or higher truths. Indeed I find that there is more truth in Proust, albeit it is officially fictional, than in the babbling analyses of the New York Times that give us the illusions of understanding what’s going on. Newspapers have officially the right facts, but their interpretations are imaginary – and their choice of facts are arbitrary. They lie with right facts; a novelist says the truth with wrong facts." - N.N. Taleb That this story still has such vigor in the public's imagination tells me that if Hitler doesn't have a flying saucer base down there, somebody does.
- ankaAr 3y agoOh, nice tabletop roleplay game Acthung! Cthulhu thanks to share some background for an adventure.
- DonaldFisk 3y agoThere's a short documentary video by Mark Felton on this: Secret Nazi Antarctic Base - Fact or Fiction? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs0ZaCQrScc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs0ZaCQrScc)
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- dmbche 3y ago"The tests were to study the Christofilos effect, which suggested it was possible to defend against Soviet nuclear missiles by exploding a small number of nuclear bombs high over the South Pacific. This would create a disk of electrons over the United States that would fry the electronics on the Soviet warheads as they descended. It was also possible to use the effect to blind Soviet radars, meaning that any Soviet missile-based ABM system would be unable to attack the US counterstrike. " From Project Argus on Wikipedia - an electron shield to fry missiles is pretty out of the box!
- wkat4242 3y agoSo basically they were thinking of EMPing incoming missiles. Not a bad idea I think but EMPs can be shielded against. Though perhaps the sensors themselves could be blinded as they need to be exposed of course.
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- Animats 3y agoDuring WWII, the US was worried that Japan would invade the US via the Aleutian Island chain, Alaska, and down through Canada. Japan got far enough to invade two small islands in the chain.[1] After about a year of battles, and about 6,000 deaths, the US and Canada won back control of the Aleutians. After WWII, the threat was the Soviet Union. The US maintained air bases in the Western Aleutians until 1994, as a defense against the Soviet Union. One of the worst places to be stationed.[1] Hence the US military's interest in being able to operate near the poles. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleutian_Islands_campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleutian_Islands_campaign [2] https://archive.org/details/Pvt.SNAFU.IntheAleutians https://archive.org/details/Pvt.SNAFU.IntheAleutians