> (disclaimer: I don't mean to shit all over your lawncare - I just find the impulse kind of funny. It's fine that you like a pristine lawn, to each their own).

> (disclaimer: I don't mean to shit all over your lawncare - I just find the impulse kind of funny. It's fine that you like a pristine lawn, to each their own). Nah, no offense taken. And I would like to clarify what I mean. I think large swaths of perfectly uniform and healthy grass looks very nice. I even think it's commendable when people put in the time and energy (and gather the knowledge) to maintain their lawn to this high standard. I would say I'm about 1/2 to 2/3rds to that extreme. I can live with some dandelions, clover, a few bare spots, etc. I find you need to increase effort exponentially to maintain a lawn to a high standard. So I commiserate with the "no-lawn" movement from a "remove things that need maintenance" perspective. I also think people have lots of unknown biases when it comes to lawns. In particular geography. I live somewhere pretty green. I'm on well water. For all intents and purposes water is a free, unlimited resource for me. I think many people here are from west coast or even just cities so they come to this discussion with the assumption that water is scarce.