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I'm willing to spend $3,000 on a device that I would want to use every day. The reason I don't spend that much on existing VR tech is that I don't want to use i

I'm willing to spend $3,000 on a device that I would want to use every day. The reason I don't spend that much on existing VR tech is that I don't want to use it.

oblio 3y ago
Most people don't have $3k of disposable income for a single non key purchase. How big even is this market, at $3k? 50 million people worldwide?
- FredPret 3y ago
  Even with 50 million people spending $3k, that’s still a $150b market. But there are lots more rich people in the world than that. And they will spend more than the initial cost, because they will buy apps, Apple Care, and next year some will buy version 2 of the headset.
- stocknoob 3y ago
  Next thing, you’ll tell me Apple wanted to charge $5k (inflation adjusted) for their new products in the 70s, and we know how that went. People simply don’t pay for new, powerful technology.
  - oblio 3y ago
    If you want to make it out like it was some huge success, remember IBM PC clones ruled the desktop market for decades, not Apple stuff :-)
- michelb 3y ago
  Why do you think this current iteration is a consumer product? Whatever Apple comes out with, it's for developers and Youtubers.
seanmcdirmid 3y ago
I use my quest every day and if there is a better experience to be had for $3k, I would pay it. I was put off by the quest pro, it wasn’t really better (for my use case) and $1k?
- chaostheory 3y ago
  In some ways, the quest pro is better. The headset is thinner and lighter. It’s much easier to mod for comfort. It has more RAM and a faster chip. Hand tracking is noticeably better. I didn’t think I would enjoy an open headset, but I like it much better than the enclosed quest 2, but that’s personal preference since I primarily use it to workout and I like having awareness of my surroundings like when I play normal flat games. I believe it’s new PCVR features like foveated rendering and desktop mirroring are also advantages over the quest 2 Surprisingly, what’s worse are the pro controllers. If you have hand tracking turned on, you will constantly lose controller tracking. Even if you turn off hand tracking, you will still lose some controller tracking in fast paced games like beat saber. I am constantly also losing haptic feedback. The original controllers are superior for gaming. You can pick up the pro from scalpers on eBay for -$800 if you don’t want to pay $1000 for retail. at $800, it feels more like a fair price.
- KaiserPro 3y ago
  The screens are much much better, as is the form factor. The rest isn't much better than a quest 2.

I'm willing to spend $3,000 on a device that I would want to use every day. The reason I don't spend that much on existing VR tech is that I don't want to use it.

oblio 3y ago

Most people don't have $3k of disposable income for a single non key purchase. How big even is this market, at $3k? 50 million people worldwide?

FredPret 3y ago
Even with 50 million people spending $3k, that’s still a $150b market. But there are lots more rich people in the world than that. And they will spend more than the initial cost, because they will buy apps, Apple Care, and next year some will buy version 2 of the headset.
stocknoob 3y ago
Next thing, you’ll tell me Apple wanted to charge $5k (inflation adjusted) for their new products in the 70s, and we know how that went. People simply don’t pay for new, powerful technology.
- oblio 3y ago
  If you want to make it out like it was some huge success, remember IBM PC clones ruled the desktop market for decades, not Apple stuff :-)
michelb 3y ago
Why do you think this current iteration is a consumer product? Whatever Apple comes out with, it's for developers and Youtubers.

seanmcdirmid 3y ago

I use my quest every day and if there is a better experience to be had for $3k, I would pay it. I was put off by the quest pro, it wasn’t really better (for my use case) and $1k?

chaostheory 3y ago
In some ways, the quest pro is better. The headset is thinner and lighter. It’s much easier to mod for comfort. It has more RAM and a faster chip. Hand tracking is noticeably better. I didn’t think I would enjoy an open headset, but I like it much better than the enclosed quest 2, but that’s personal preference since I primarily use it to workout and I like having awareness of my surroundings like when I play normal flat games. I believe it’s new PCVR features like foveated rendering and desktop mirroring are also advantages over the quest 2 Surprisingly, what’s worse are the pro controllers. If you have hand tracking turned on, you will constantly lose controller tracking. Even if you turn off hand tracking, you will still lose some controller tracking in fast paced games like beat saber. I am constantly also losing haptic feedback. The original controllers are superior for gaming. You can pick up the pro from scalpers on eBay for -$800 if you don’t want to pay $1000 for retail. at $800, it feels more like a fair price.
KaiserPro 3y ago
The screens are much much better, as is the form factor. The rest isn't much better than a quest 2.