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Both a sensible business move and the right thing to do. If they could magically roll up the entirety of WDW and relocate it elsewhere I suspect they would.

by faefox 3y ago

yeahwhatever10 3y ago
Where are they going to go, California? Unless they get huge tax breaks and some open land to expand on I doubt it.
- chomp 3y ago
  They're not going anywhere because as GP pointed out, they can't actually magically roll up WDW.
  - cauthon 3y ago
    Then what are they even paying the fairy godmother for?
- smt88 3y ago
  Georgia has a similar climate and is significantly more politically moderate.
- mym1990 3y ago
  FWIW California already has Disneyland.
- supportengineer 3y ago
  They got very close to building a new park in Virginia about 20 years ago
- KerrAvon 3y ago
  They did it in Florida in the 1960’s and Disneyland Paris in the 1990’s, and they could easily do it again if they were again motivated to spend the enormous amount of money it would take.
  - jimbob45 3y ago
    They bought the Florida land through shell companies so no one would suspect what was going on during the 1960s. That wouldn't fly today. They'd have to pay 10x the price.
- vvilliamperez 3y ago
  There are plans for Texas.
- foogazi 3y ago
  They just announced the the California parks’ expansion
KerrAvon 3y ago
At this point, they would be fools not to stash in a filing cabinet somewhere a plan for a WDW equivalent somewhere in one of several less hostile US states. It wouldn’t be the same, with all of WDW’s history, direct involvement of Walt and Roy Disney, weird systems (underground garbage vacuum service, etc). But America has a lot of unoccupied land, and most states would be happy to give Disney significant leeway in exchange for long-term guaranteed taxes, jobs, and tourism. One thing is certain: the next FL governor after DeSantis will have a gigantic mess to clean up.
- ortusdux 3y ago
  After watching all the sweetheart deals offered by states trying to court the last gigafactory, I can't imagine the lengths they would go for Disney.
jacob0385 3y ago
based on disney stock price... they might want to focus on other things.
vvilliamperez 3y ago
There are already plans for Texas. Same with Universal.
- _JamesA_ 3y ago
  https://therealdeal.com/texas/2023/04/13/dmb-plans-12000-homes-in-williamson-county/ https://therealdeal.com/texas/2023/04/13/dmb-plans-12000-hom...
- seanmcdirmid 3y ago
  I wish the PNW would get some love, we have very little going in terms of Amusement parks (the biggest one is in Idaho, you've probably never heard of it). Eastern Oregon has plenty of land...I can dream anyways.
  - deprecative 3y ago
    The issue with the PNW is similar to the issue with Florida. Climate Change is going to nuke both areas out of habitability in the next handful of decades. While sure FL has conservative loons running things and that's problematic in the short to medium term for Disney that'll pass. It'll be being on fire or under water that'll keep them away.
    - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
      I don't see how climate change is going to nuke the PNW. Our coasts are too high to be much affected (so we don't have issues with rising coast lines), while the heat makes summers more...normal for the rest of the country, the fact that we get rain 9 months out of the year should insulate us from the changes. Forest fire season does suck, but again, 9 months of rain a year means it isn't that long. Perhaps we should all be buying in Alaska, however, given that it will soon be the next mild climate tropical destination :).
      - deprecative 3y ago
        Wildfires are expected to get more intense and longer as climate change goes on in the PNW. I don't think you're going to want an inferno to be a destination point. It's nothing against the PNW - it's a beautiful part of the country we definitely need to preserve but if you're looking at things in decades I don't think you'd want to invest considerably into a tourist destination there if you're Disney is all.

Both a sensible business move and the right thing to do. If they could magically roll up the entirety of WDW and relocate it elsewhere I suspect they would.

by faefox 3y ago

Both a sensible business move and the right thing to do. If they could magically roll up the entirety of WDW and relocate it elsewhere I suspect they would.

yeahwhatever10 3y ago

Where are they going to go, California? Unless they get huge tax breaks and some open land to expand on I doubt it.

chomp 3y ago
They're not going anywhere because as GP pointed out, they can't actually magically roll up WDW.
- cauthon 3y ago
  Then what are they even paying the fairy godmother for?
smt88 3y ago
Georgia has a similar climate and is significantly more politically moderate.
mym1990 3y ago
FWIW California already has Disneyland.
supportengineer 3y ago
They got very close to building a new park in Virginia about 20 years ago
KerrAvon 3y ago
They did it in Florida in the 1960’s and Disneyland Paris in the 1990’s, and they could easily do it again if they were again motivated to spend the enormous amount of money it would take.
- jimbob45 3y ago
  They bought the Florida land through shell companies so no one would suspect what was going on during the 1960s. That wouldn't fly today. They'd have to pay 10x the price.
vvilliamperez 3y ago
There are plans for Texas.
foogazi 3y ago
They just announced the the California parks’ expansion

KerrAvon 3y ago

At this point, they would be fools not to stash in a filing cabinet somewhere a plan for a WDW equivalent somewhere in one of several less hostile US states. It wouldn’t be the same, with all of WDW’s history, direct involvement of Walt and Roy Disney, weird systems (underground garbage vacuum service, etc). But America has a lot of unoccupied land, and most states would be happy to give Disney significant leeway in exchange for long-term guaranteed taxes, jobs, and tourism. One thing is certain: the next FL governor after DeSantis will have a gigantic mess to clean up.

ortusdux 3y ago
After watching all the sweetheart deals offered by states trying to court the last gigafactory, I can't imagine the lengths they would go for Disney.

jacob0385 3y ago

based on disney stock price... they might want to focus on other things.

vvilliamperez 3y ago

There are already plans for Texas. Same with Universal.

_JamesA_ 3y ago
https://therealdeal.com/texas/2023/04/13/dmb-plans-12000-homes-in-williamson-county/ https://therealdeal.com/texas/2023/04/13/dmb-plans-12000-hom...
seanmcdirmid 3y ago
I wish the PNW would get some love, we have very little going in terms of Amusement parks (the biggest one is in Idaho, you've probably never heard of it). Eastern Oregon has plenty of land...I can dream anyways.
- deprecative 3y ago
  The issue with the PNW is similar to the issue with Florida. Climate Change is going to nuke both areas out of habitability in the next handful of decades. While sure FL has conservative loons running things and that's problematic in the short to medium term for Disney that'll pass. It'll be being on fire or under water that'll keep them away.
  - seanmcdirmid 3y ago
    I don't see how climate change is going to nuke the PNW. Our coasts are too high to be much affected (so we don't have issues with rising coast lines), while the heat makes summers more...normal for the rest of the country, the fact that we get rain 9 months out of the year should insulate us from the changes. Forest fire season does suck, but again, 9 months of rain a year means it isn't that long. Perhaps we should all be buying in Alaska, however, given that it will soon be the next mild climate tropical destination :).
    - deprecative 3y ago
      Wildfires are expected to get more intense and longer as climate change goes on in the PNW. I don't think you're going to want an inferno to be a destination point. It's nothing against the PNW - it's a beautiful part of the country we definitely need to preserve but if you're looking at things in decades I don't think you'd want to invest considerably into a tourist destination there if you're Disney is all.