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I clicked on the link on my PC. Noted the name of the app ("Openai ChatGP") and the description ("The official app by OpenAI") I opened App Store on my iPhon
by NikolaNovak 3y ago
I clicked on the link on my PC.
Noted the name of the app ("Openai ChatGP") and the description ("The official app by OpenAI")
I opened App Store on my iPhone and typed the name of the app, verbatim.
The official/correct app was not in the first 20 entries (which is as far as I was willing to scroll).
Which, to me:
1. Shows why an official app is needed even though the web version works perfectly fine on iPhone and is probably easier
2. Doesn't actually seem to solve the problem
3. Puts to shame all the touted benefits of a "walled garden/closed ecosystem".
- psychphysic 3y agoThey are fighting an uphill battle against a never ending wave of products that are often well meaning but named too similarly too. Not that HN wants to admit it when gpt4all gpt4free etc comes up
- pmuk 3y agoAre you outside the US? I got the same results, but then realised it's only available in the US at the moment.
- NameError 3y agoI am in the US and had the same issue - ended up installing it by finding the announcement post and clicking through from there.
- candiodari 3y agoI am in the EU and finding the announcement post and clicking on it gives me a blank page.
- lukaesch 3y agoOnly available in the US right now
- int_19h 3y agoEven in US, if you search for e.g. "GPT" instead of "ChatGPT", the top search results are all third party apps, and some of them seem like they deliberately copy the official website look and feel.
- bradly 3y agoThe App Store has had a problem with cold starts for a few years now. I remember a few years ago when I worked on App Store search it was a known problem when apps like Disney+ were released and users were searching directly for a new app immediately.
- calderwoodra 3y agoExactly this, it takes a few days before the app will be indexed.
- thomasahle 3y ago"Cold start" problems are usually not about the app being indexed, but about the recommendation/ranking system being based on what other users have clicked on or downloaded.
- calderwoodra 3y agoGive it a try - deploy your iOS app with a totally unique name and let me know if you can find it. It won't show in search results, no matter how many pages you scroll through.
- ricardobayes 3y agoI wonder what on earth takes a few days, this is not a DNS record...
- jdminhbg 3y agoThe CAP theorem.
- ugjka 3y agoDNS records don't take days
- ricardobayes 3y ago
- spullara 3y agoApple's search takes a bit to show new apps. Will likely be very prominent by tomorrow.
- waboremo 3y agoTo #3, to users the benefit is absolutely nothing. There are still so many garbage apps. To Apple, the benefit is enormous. What happens when garbage apps get better ranking? Companies pay for that sponsored position. Once they do, Apple then starts ranking them better and gets to claim they "monitor quality" when it was never about quality on the App Store.
- CyberKimura 3y agoMy favorite is "Microsoft Authenticator" not being the first result when searching for it by name. I don't have an iPhone but I have to tell all my users to make sure the icon matches the registration page for O365's MFA registration.
- visarga 3y ago15 years after introducing Apple Store it is still shit at finding apps, even though I am willing to pay. The search function is just a disaster. You need to use Google and the web to find anything.
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- kposehn 3y ago> 1. Shows why an official app is needed even though the web version works perfectly fine on iPhone and is probably easier Agreed that an official app is needed, clearly. > 2. Doesn't actually seem to solve the problem For now. Eventually it'll get sorted. > 3. Puts to shame all the touted benefits of a "walled garden/closed ecosystem". Despite having the same experience, I disagree with your conclusion. It has nothing do with the "walled garden" and everything to do with Apple and OpenAI not paying attention to a rapidly emerging use case. The problem arose because OpenAI did not prioritize the initiative to make their own early enough, allowing hundreds of other developers to fill the void and muddy the waters, while Apple allowed these copycats into the App Store without really considering the customer experience.
- kjreact 3y ago> while Apple allowed these copycats into the App Store without really considering the customer experience. And what is Apple supposed to do in this case? Block independent devs from submitting valid apps? Then they’d be blamed for supporting big corp and monopolistic practices. Damned if they do and damned if they don’t.
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- NikolaNovak 3y agoWe might yet find out whether we agree or disagree :), so let me be more narrow & specific: * Apple is positioning their tight control over the appstore, including high fees to developers and restricted choice to consumers, as providing benefits of a curated & safe experience * Do we feel that dozens of apps overlaying OpenAI ChatGPT, with various degrees of honesty and deception and monetization methods and privacy policies, are in-line with stated goals of the appstore, and with desires and best interests of the end-users? My personal impression is "No". This is not to say I want the app store controlled more tightly - on the contrary; I am saying that I am not receiving benefits of the "walled garden / ecosystem" (and this is hardly the first example since iPhone was forced upon me by my employer:), i.e. I do not feel materially safer on AppleStore than I do on Google Play store; but I do feel materially obstructed/impacted when I want to install something that Apple for whatever reason does not. Or in other words, without claiming anybody did anything particularly wrong here, if you're GOING to allow dozens of apps pretending to be the hottest new thing on the market on the app store, then just get out of my way and let me install what I want without pretense of curation and safety.
- paulddraper 3y agoTry again tomorrow. 10:1 odds it will be the top entry.
- xmo 3y agoI just discovered this as well. If your iOS is out-dated (the app requires 16.1 or higher), it won't show the app in search result.
- rkapsoro 3y agoAre you outside the US? It seems to be region locked to US right now, so all of the third party frontend apps are all you see when searching from elsewhere.
- airstrike 3y agoThis happens in the US too.
- tunesmith 3y agoYeah I had to visit this page on my phone and then click the direct link to find it.
- ramraj07 3y agoI love my iPhone but god damn does apple suck at a number of things. It’s 2023, and they have a terabyte of storage but they won’t store more than 100 numbers in your call history. Like what.
- dr_dshiv 3y agoHow about being able to edit a copied phone number? Like maybe I want to add a country code? No, the only way to do it is to make a new contact and then edit it? Ok… Or how about search a pdf on my phone? Really? I can’t? Huh… so random…
- nathancahill 3y agoThe phone number editing is the bane of my existence. I also want the option to automatically set the country code of a new number to either the current country I'm in or the country my SIM card is from.
- ricardobayes 3y agoThat's so weird, that's the first option on Android if you long-press a number on the call history.
- riversflow 3y ago> Or how about search a pdf on my phone? Open it in iBooks, which also runs ocr on the pdf, and hit the magnifying glass.
- dr_dshiv 3y agoI’ll try it, thanks!
- mensetmanusman 3y agoOnedrive works well too.
- Forgeties79 3y ago
- azinman2 3y agoI’m guessing it keeps you logged in, will scroll/handle text more natively than the web, and opens up an app for who-knows-what in the future. It’s the right call to make.
- yreg 3y agoThe web version is very far from perfect on an iPhone. It keeps logging me out, the copying UX is subpar… And god forbid I lock my phone while I'm getting a completion back. It stops mid sentence and there is no way to continue with it. Which (locking one's phone for a bit while interacting with it) is a very valid use case if you are doing stuff with your hands and want to put the phone in your pocket for a bit. I'm looking forward to the app.
- mynameisvlad 3y ago“Perfectly fine” does not mean perfect, it means it’s usable. And it’s not like the parent commenter doesn’t agree that an app is useful.
- yreg 3y ago'Perfectly fine' definitely doesn't mean 'usable' in my dictionary. But I see that perhaps the parent didn't mean to say that the web version can do everything the app does, so I have edited my comment to be less confrontational. Thanks.
- NikolaNovak 3y agoRight. OP here, FWIW, in my colloquial English (right or wrong:) "Perfect" is, well, perfect; does everything I want and cannot be meaningfully improved. "Perfectly Fine" on the other hand, the key word is "fine". It is "eh. It mostly does the job. I cannot begrudge it too much. I have bigger things to rant about. It's perfectly fine." "Fine" is like "Nice". It's fine. It's nice. Note quite "Good", let alone "Amazing". But it's fine. Perfectly so :) (I empathize with all of your pain points, particularly the stopping of generation if my screen locks. I have employer-mandated iPhone which has draconian locking policies which are pretty close to average time of query generation. I wonder if app will have the same issue?)
- yreg 3y agoSo 'fine' is better than 'perfectly fine'? (I’m not a native speaker.)
- merpnderp 3y agoI had to open the link in my browser, then use the Safari tab sharing thing to open that same page on my phone, which then opened it in the store to the correct app, because I ran into the exact same problem. Apple store search is a broken horrific joke.
- visarga 3y agoApple caught with pants down doing important app launch. I hope they are proud.
- mullingitover 3y ago> ...the web version works perfectly fine on iPhone I imagine this is their MVP, and they're going to iterate and start adding more iOS specific stuff. It'd be nice to be able to hook it into Siri natively (since we can't just rip out Siri and replace it with ChatGPT).
- nonethewiser 3y agoI was just going to post the same thing. Im not surprised someone else shared but im surprised it was the top comment.
- dwighttk 3y agofwiw, you seem to have left a "T" off the end
- moffkalast 3y agoChatGP, it's lights out and away we go!
- eclectic29 3y agoThe web version doesn't allow speech input.
- robwwilliams 3y agoLink worked for me just as expected.
- yurikoif 3y agoCanadian here can’t use it yet. Does it have access to preinstalled iOS apps like reminder? I use them daily with Siri which I really can’t be much fond of…