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Not sure it is so cut and dry. Here are 8 different USB-C types: 1. USB 2.0 rated at 3A 2. USB 2.0 rated at 5A 3. USB 3.2 Gen 1 rated at 3A 4. USB 3.2 Gen 1

Not sure it is so cut and dry. Here are 8 different USB-C types: 1. USB 2.0 rated at 3A 2. USB 2.0 rated at 5A 3. USB 3.2 Gen 1 rated at 3A 4. USB 3.2 Gen 1 rated at 5A 5. USB 3.2 Gen 2 rated at 3A 6. USB 3.2 Gen 2 rated at 5A 7. USB4 Gen 3 rated at 3A 8. USB4 Gen 3 rated at 5A What percentage of customers will be impacted when they aren't using a compatible cable that looks like it should work? Also the whole master/slave hardware confusion might be a step back: https://superuser.com/questions/1140136/how-does-usb-c-affect-usbs-distinction-between-host-and-peripheral https://superuser.com/questions/1140136/how-does-usb-c-affec...

megous 3y ago
Maybe 2 people who expect to get Alt-DP working with USB 2.0 only cable. For others, things will just work, except not at the max capacity/performance.
- oefrha 3y ago
  > except not at the max capacity/performance That except is doing a lot of work. Picking up a USB-C cable only to find out it charges slower than the device burns battery, or only capable of transferring data at sub USB 2.0 speed when I need to transfer a lot of data are both real world scenarios I have encountered multiple times. Even got a charging cable for >400GB data transfer at an Apple Store Genius Bar once.
  - seba_dos1 3y ago
    > Picking up a USB-C cable only to find out it charges slower than the device burns battery You have to try hard for that, as any compliant cable is able to pass 60W, which is what I can comfortably charge my laptop with. You only need e-markers for going higher than that, which is perfectly reasonable as that's plenty of power already. Cables with no CC lines cannot be called "USB-C cables". They're not complaint at all. They're just broken, and it's no surprise that broken hardware fails to work as expected.
ChuckNorris89 3y ago
The EU can't regulate that. The device and the chargers already negociate the charging standard to the lowest and safest common denominator supported by both devices and the cable connecting them. There are several universal chargers you can buy that support all standards under the sun from all manufacturers. That's a non issue outside of HN mind games people here like to play to draw their own straw men.
rektide 3y ago
Charging cables made it complex, but those aside everyone else gets 5Gbps and 3A, which is an incredibly solid baseline. People love freaking out about the profusion of USB specs available, but the overall experience is magically great. Just stellar. Usb has recently gotten a bit better about their new on-cable markings to make things clearer. But overall the baseline is so good.

megous 3y ago

Maybe 2 people who expect to get Alt-DP working with USB 2.0 only cable. For others, things will just work, except not at the max capacity/performance.

oefrha 3y ago
> except not at the max capacity/performance That except is doing a lot of work. Picking up a USB-C cable only to find out it charges slower than the device burns battery, or only capable of transferring data at sub USB 2.0 speed when I need to transfer a lot of data are both real world scenarios I have encountered multiple times. Even got a charging cable for >400GB data transfer at an Apple Store Genius Bar once.
- seba_dos1 3y ago
  > Picking up a USB-C cable only to find out it charges slower than the device burns battery You have to try hard for that, as any compliant cable is able to pass 60W, which is what I can comfortably charge my laptop with. You only need e-markers for going higher than that, which is perfectly reasonable as that's plenty of power already. Cables with no CC lines cannot be called "USB-C cables". They're not complaint at all. They're just broken, and it's no surprise that broken hardware fails to work as expected.

ChuckNorris89 3y ago

The EU can't regulate that. The device and the chargers already negociate the charging standard to the lowest and safest common denominator supported by both devices and the cable connecting them. There are several universal chargers you can buy that support all standards under the sun from all manufacturers. That's a non issue outside of HN mind games people here like to play to draw their own straw men.

rektide 3y ago

Charging cables made it complex, but those aside everyone else gets 5Gbps and 3A, which is an incredibly solid baseline. People love freaking out about the profusion of USB specs available, but the overall experience is magically great. Just stellar. Usb has recently gotten a bit better about their new on-cable markings to make things clearer. But overall the baseline is so good.