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I'm still running Snow Leopard after being scared off Lion from reports about instability when it was first released. Is Lion mature enough to replace Snow Leop

by nagrom 15y ago

I'm still running Snow Leopard after being scared off Lion from reports about instability when it was first released. Is Lion mature enough to replace Snow Leopard now, or should I just hold off and see what happens when Mountain Lion is released?

Craiggybear 15y ago
Yeah, I'm still with Leopard 10.5.8 ... I don't like the direction they're taking with OS X but I'd seen this coming for a while. I can see the next release after this being effectively a completely walled garden desktop OS without even a command prompt.
- gkefalas 15y ago
  Really? Because I can't, at all, and I'd rather not be proven wrong as I'd loathe it as much as you would (but it sounds like it's not like you'd upgrade anyway).
- mitchellhislop 15y ago
  Really? On a machine that makes Apple a ton of money from developers (where do you think most iPhone apps are written) will get an OS without a command prompt? And you can see this happening?
- neilparikh 15y ago
  Command line for Apple registered developers only is more likely.
ugh 15y ago
I’m running Lion on a four year old MBP and never had any stability problems, not even with any of the developer previews. Safari used to behave strangely and still kind of does (once in a blue moon it will reload every single page you have open, which can be very annoying and even disastrous). That’s the most egregious issue I had with Lion.
- nagrom 15y ago
  OK, thanks. Looking back at the reports of instability, they all seem to have come from people who have installed Lion on top of Snow Leopard and seem to involve problems with the graphics drivers. I'll likely wait and see how ML performs before making a decision.
tptacek 15y ago
Marco Arment says stick with Snow Leopard. Just said it last week, in fact. I like Lion, but it has been a little wonky.
- dochtman 15y ago
  Where did he say that? I think I missed it on his blog (just looked again and didn't see it). Did he say it in a podcast (maybe Kindacritical)?
  - tptacek 15y ago
    Kindacritical.
untog 15y ago
I upgraded to Lion because Xcode forced me to, but I really don't see a compelling reason why anyone would otherwise. Same with today's announcement really- no compelling new features for me.
abruzzi 15y ago
I'm sticking with 10.6 for as long as possible for one reason--I like arrow buttons on my scroll bars. I know thats a bit luddite, but sometimes (especially navigating large datasets) they work much better for the work I do.
matwood 15y ago
I've been using Lion since it came out and installed it over an existing SL install. Go to sys prefs and turn off "Restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps" and most of the problems with Lion are solved.

by nagrom 15y ago

Craiggybear 15y ago

Yeah, I'm still with Leopard 10.5.8 ... I don't like the direction they're taking with OS X but I'd seen this coming for a while. I can see the next release after this being effectively a completely walled garden desktop OS without even a command prompt.

gkefalas 15y ago
Really? Because I can't, at all, and I'd rather not be proven wrong as I'd loathe it as much as you would (but it sounds like it's not like you'd upgrade anyway).
mitchellhislop 15y ago
Really? On a machine that makes Apple a ton of money from developers (where do you think most iPhone apps are written) will get an OS without a command prompt? And you can see this happening?
neilparikh 15y ago
Command line for Apple registered developers only is more likely.

ugh 15y ago

I’m running Lion on a four year old MBP and never had any stability problems, not even with any of the developer previews. Safari used to behave strangely and still kind of does (once in a blue moon it will reload every single page you have open, which can be very annoying and even disastrous). That’s the most egregious issue I had with Lion.

nagrom 15y ago
OK, thanks. Looking back at the reports of instability, they all seem to have come from people who have installed Lion on top of Snow Leopard and seem to involve problems with the graphics drivers. I'll likely wait and see how ML performs before making a decision.

tptacek 15y ago

Marco Arment says stick with Snow Leopard. Just said it last week, in fact. I like Lion, but it has been a little wonky.

dochtman 15y ago
Where did he say that? I think I missed it on his blog (just looked again and didn't see it). Did he say it in a podcast (maybe Kindacritical)?
- tptacek 15y ago
  Kindacritical.

untog 15y ago

I upgraded to Lion because Xcode forced me to, but I really don't see a compelling reason why anyone would otherwise. Same with today's announcement really- no compelling new features for me.

abruzzi 15y ago

I'm sticking with 10.6 for as long as possible for one reason--I like arrow buttons on my scroll bars. I know thats a bit luddite, but sometimes (especially navigating large datasets) they work much better for the work I do.

matwood 15y ago

I've been using Lion since it came out and installed it over an existing SL install. Go to sys prefs and turn off "Restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps" and most of the problems with Lion are solved.