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I laughed out loud at this line: > At a glance, Arend's journey from organising underground raves in Hamburg to heading up an ultra-endurance race in Los Angel

I laughed out loud at this line: > At a glance, Arend's journey from organising underground raves in Hamburg to heading up an ultra-endurance race in Los Angeles might seem an unlikely one. I guess it might not be obvious, but as someone who enjoys running, I quite often get the 'euphoria' that I once got at raves - it is ecstacy. While I am a runner, albeit not an ultra runner, I absolutely get how people from the rave scene would be attracted to it, I also see regularly people running whom I used to know from rave scene, or I can tell from their tattoos (hello plastikman logo!) Those who ask the question 'what harm are they doing to themselves?' are often missing the point, Drugs / Alcohol / Running are all ways in which we 'run' from our demons - the question of 'what harm is this doing to me?' is often weighted against alternatives.

nonethewiser 3y ago
> Those who ask the question 'what harm are they doing to themselves?' are often missing the point, Drugs / Alcohol / Running are all ways in which we 'run' from our demons - the question of 'what harm is this doing to me?' is often weighted against alternatives. Im not sure if Im following… you are suggesting running is bad for you? Analogous to drugs and alcohol? And maybe it is a coping mechanism for you but I dont think that is typically why people run. I also dont think abusing drugs is usually better than the alternatives. I would suggest you gather more alternatives if it appears that way.
- xzel 3y ago
  I don’t want to speak for him, but to me he’s saying that they’re both actives where you get a euphoria/high. I’d even go a step further and say people who do ultra running are chasing a high and are addicts, albeit very healthy ones, that are overindulging vs the norm.
- youngNed 3y ago
  > you are suggesting running is bad for you? Analogous to drugs and alcohol? No, not in the slightest. > I dont think that is typically why people run Nor do i, i think some people have this as a reason to run, and this, i believe, increases as the type of running becomes more extreme

nonethewiser 3y ago

> Those who ask the question 'what harm are they doing to themselves?' are often missing the point, Drugs / Alcohol / Running are all ways in which we 'run' from our demons - the question of 'what harm is this doing to me?' is often weighted against alternatives. Im not sure if Im following… you are suggesting running is bad for you? Analogous to drugs and alcohol? And maybe it is a coping mechanism for you but I dont think that is typically why people run. I also dont think abusing drugs is usually better than the alternatives. I would suggest you gather more alternatives if it appears that way.

xzel 3y ago
I don’t want to speak for him, but to me he’s saying that they’re both actives where you get a euphoria/high. I’d even go a step further and say people who do ultra running are chasing a high and are addicts, albeit very healthy ones, that are overindulging vs the norm.
youngNed 3y ago
> you are suggesting running is bad for you? Analogous to drugs and alcohol? No, not in the slightest. > I dont think that is typically why people run Nor do i, i think some people have this as a reason to run, and this, i believe, increases as the type of running becomes more extreme