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In the US? Friends. You will literally lose out on social activities bc of SMS.

lgas 3y ago
I'm in the US and have an iPhone but as I mentioned in another reply, I have friends with android and have never noticed any impediments to texting them... or them me? Is this a high school thing or are you talking about adults?
- DrBenCarson 3y ago
  Adults will comb group texts for the number preventing them from sending a photo at usable resolution and delete them.
  - DANmode 3y ago
    Adults also send emails to 45 clear-text To: addresses, or Reply All thousands of people. Is this a good heuristic for acceptable behavior?
    - DrBenCarson 3y ago
      I’m not making a judgement, just an observation. Ultimately in this case they’re moving from cleartext to an E2EE platform (iMessage) so maybe you’d be happier in this case?
- MAGZine 3y ago
  I, as an adult, have been left out of many many group texts (and thus social activities) because they didn't want to make the convo green. Queue the onslaught of empathetic "get better friends lol" -- except I've seen this behaviour across so many social circles that even if it was a viable suggestion, there's no certainty the next group would be any better.
  - DANmode 3y ago
    I feel like I would move if I couldn't find any social circle aside from rabid blue-bubblers.
    - DrBenCarson 3y ago
      You would emigrate from the US?
      - DANmode 3y ago
        You incorrectly believe your experience is representative of all of the vastly differing experiences of those in the US. The phenomenon you're commenting on/describing happens often, perhaps is even common. But it is not ubiquitous.
- devnulll 3y ago
  There are any number family group chats that leave my sister out of things. She's the only Android user out of about 20 people. If she's on the threads then pictures, videos, and reactions are all broken. This is 100% deliberate by Apple, but the bias against Android users is real.
  - DANmode 3y ago
    > but the bias against Android users is real. From people who don't know it's an intentional limitation by Apple. aka, mostly nontechnical people.
  - Mumps 3y ago
    Genuinely asking: your family is not willing to use WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Teams, Discord, ..., to have your sister be included?
    - DANmode 3y ago
      "Why should they have to install an extra app just because she wants to be different?" Experiencing this sort of behavior keeps me from believing I am an understanding person.
George83728 3y ago
I think I'm better off without such vapid people as friends. None of my friends with iphones have ever complained about me having an android, nor can I even imagine them doing something like that. Bullying somebody for their consumer choices is far beyond the pale. You may as well say that not owning a BMW will lose you potential friends because some BMW drivers will sneer at you. Maybe that's true, but who's loss is that really?
- DrBenCarson 3y ago
  It’s not explicit. It’s the added friction that places you a bit outside the “inner circle.” Can’t FaceTime? Oh I’ll call you later. Can’t watch the video I sent to the group? I’ll show you later. Little things add up. Now you’re missing inside jokes, impromptu plans, etc.
  - lapetitejort 3y ago
    I took a picture of a car driving away from a hit and run. The victim asked for the picture, but because I couldn't airdrop it, he'd rather just write down the license plate. I offered to text or email but he refused. A small amount of friction caused him to miss out on potential evidence.
    - George83728 3y ago
      > I offered to text or email So because you weren't an asshole, you were willing to adapt to his use of android. Doesn't that illustrate my point? People who aren't assholes are willing to be flexible. If you had insisted on airdrop or nothing, that would be different. > but he refused It sounds like he didn't think the picture was important and only wanted the license plate number. This isn't an android/iphone matter at all.
      - lapetitejort 3y ago
        My inadvertent lack of detail leads to an interesting misunderstanding. I am the android user. So in the iPhone user's case, it was airdrop or nothing. The picture was important enough to ask for but not important enough to spend an extra thirty seconds dictating a email address. The picture has more detail than just the license plate. It also had the car make, model, condition, road, position, and metadata. However, I'm not sure the legality (chain of custody, etc) of someone's hastily shot picture of a car driving when dealing with a hit-and-run. Better to have and not need though.

lgas 3y ago

I'm in the US and have an iPhone but as I mentioned in another reply, I have friends with android and have never noticed any impediments to texting them... or them me? Is this a high school thing or are you talking about adults?

DrBenCarson 3y ago
Adults will comb group texts for the number preventing them from sending a photo at usable resolution and delete them.
- DANmode 3y ago
  Adults also send emails to 45 clear-text To: addresses, or Reply All thousands of people. Is this a good heuristic for acceptable behavior?
  - DrBenCarson 3y ago
    I’m not making a judgement, just an observation. Ultimately in this case they’re moving from cleartext to an E2EE platform (iMessage) so maybe you’d be happier in this case?
MAGZine 3y ago
I, as an adult, have been left out of many many group texts (and thus social activities) because they didn't want to make the convo green. Queue the onslaught of empathetic "get better friends lol" -- except I've seen this behaviour across so many social circles that even if it was a viable suggestion, there's no certainty the next group would be any better.
- DANmode 3y ago
  I feel like I would move if I couldn't find any social circle aside from rabid blue-bubblers.
  - DrBenCarson 3y ago
    You would emigrate from the US?
    - DANmode 3y ago
      You incorrectly believe your experience is representative of all of the vastly differing experiences of those in the US. The phenomenon you're commenting on/describing happens often, perhaps is even common. But it is not ubiquitous.
devnulll 3y ago
There are any number family group chats that leave my sister out of things. She's the only Android user out of about 20 people. If she's on the threads then pictures, videos, and reactions are all broken. This is 100% deliberate by Apple, but the bias against Android users is real.
- DANmode 3y ago
  > but the bias against Android users is real. From people who don't know it's an intentional limitation by Apple. aka, mostly nontechnical people.
- Mumps 3y ago
  Genuinely asking: your family is not willing to use WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Teams, Discord, ..., to have your sister be included?
  - DANmode 3y ago
    "Why should they have to install an extra app just because she wants to be different?" Experiencing this sort of behavior keeps me from believing I am an understanding person.

George83728 3y ago

I think I'm better off without such vapid people as friends. None of my friends with iphones have ever complained about me having an android, nor can I even imagine them doing something like that. Bullying somebody for their consumer choices is far beyond the pale. You may as well say that not owning a BMW will lose you potential friends because some BMW drivers will sneer at you. Maybe that's true, but who's loss is that really?

DrBenCarson 3y ago
It’s not explicit. It’s the added friction that places you a bit outside the “inner circle.” Can’t FaceTime? Oh I’ll call you later. Can’t watch the video I sent to the group? I’ll show you later. Little things add up. Now you’re missing inside jokes, impromptu plans, etc.
- lapetitejort 3y ago
  I took a picture of a car driving away from a hit and run. The victim asked for the picture, but because I couldn't airdrop it, he'd rather just write down the license plate. I offered to text or email but he refused. A small amount of friction caused him to miss out on potential evidence.
  - George83728 3y ago
    > I offered to text or email So because you weren't an asshole, you were willing to adapt to his use of android. Doesn't that illustrate my point? People who aren't assholes are willing to be flexible. If you had insisted on airdrop or nothing, that would be different. > but he refused It sounds like he didn't think the picture was important and only wanted the license plate number. This isn't an android/iphone matter at all.
    - lapetitejort 3y ago
      My inadvertent lack of detail leads to an interesting misunderstanding. I am the android user. So in the iPhone user's case, it was airdrop or nothing. The picture was important enough to ask for but not important enough to spend an extra thirty seconds dictating a email address. The picture has more detail than just the license plate. It also had the car make, model, condition, road, position, and metadata. However, I'm not sure the legality (chain of custody, etc) of someone's hastily shot picture of a car driving when dealing with a hit-and-run. Better to have and not need though.