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What do you get out of iMessage and its network effect besides blue text instead of green?
by lgas 3y ago
What do you get out of iMessage and its network effect besides blue text instead of green?
- DrBenCarson 3y agoIn the US? Friends. You will literally lose out on social activities bc of SMS.
- lgas 3y agoI'm in the US and have an iPhone but as I mentioned in another reply, I have friends with android and have never noticed any impediments to texting them... or them me? Is this a high school thing or are you talking about adults?
- DrBenCarson 3y agoAdults will comb group texts for the number preventing them from sending a photo at usable resolution and delete them.
- DANmode 3y agoAdults also send emails to 45 clear-text To: addresses, or Reply All thousands of people. Is this a good heuristic for acceptable behavior?
- DrBenCarson 3y agoI’m not making a judgement, just an observation. Ultimately in this case they’re moving from cleartext to an E2EE platform (iMessage) so maybe you’d be happier in this case?
- MAGZine 3y agoI, as an adult, have been left out of many many group texts (and thus social activities) because they didn't want to make the convo green. Queue the onslaught of empathetic "get better friends lol" -- except I've seen this behaviour across so many social circles that even if it was a viable suggestion, there's no certainty the next group would be any better.
- DANmode 3y agoI feel like I would move if I couldn't find any social circle aside from rabid blue-bubblers.
- DrBenCarson 3y agoYou would emigrate from the US?
- DANmode 3y agoYou incorrectly believe your experience is representative of all of the vastly differing experiences of those in the US. The phenomenon you're commenting on/describing happens often, perhaps is even common. But it is not ubiquitous.
- devnulll 3y agoThere are any number family group chats that leave my sister out of things. She's the only Android user out of about 20 people. If she's on the threads then pictures, videos, and reactions are all broken. This is 100% deliberate by Apple, but the bias against Android users is real.
- DANmode 3y ago> but the bias against Android users is real. From people who don't know it's an intentional limitation by Apple. aka, mostly nontechnical people.
- Mumps 3y agoGenuinely asking: your family is not willing to use WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Teams, Discord, ..., to have your sister be included?
- DANmode 3y ago"Why should they have to install an extra app just because she wants to be different?" Experiencing this sort of behavior keeps me from believing I am an understanding person.
- George83728 3y agoI think I'm better off without such vapid people as friends. None of my friends with iphones have ever complained about me having an android, nor can I even imagine them doing something like that. Bullying somebody for their consumer choices is far beyond the pale. You may as well say that not owning a BMW will lose you potential friends because some BMW drivers will sneer at you. Maybe that's true, but who's loss is that really?
- DrBenCarson 3y agoIt’s not explicit. It’s the added friction that places you a bit outside the “inner circle.” Can’t FaceTime? Oh I’ll call you later. Can’t watch the video I sent to the group? I’ll show you later. Little things add up. Now you’re missing inside jokes, impromptu plans, etc.
- lapetitejort 3y agoI took a picture of a car driving away from a hit and run. The victim asked for the picture, but because I couldn't airdrop it, he'd rather just write down the license plate. I offered to text or email but he refused. A small amount of friction caused him to miss out on potential evidence.
- George83728 3y ago> I offered to text or email So because you weren't an asshole, you were willing to adapt to his use of android. Doesn't that illustrate my point? People who aren't assholes are willing to be flexible. If you had insisted on airdrop or nothing, that would be different. > but he refused It sounds like he didn't think the picture was important and only wanted the license plate number. This isn't an android/iphone matter at all.
- lapetitejort 3y agoMy inadvertent lack of detail leads to an interesting misunderstanding. I am the android user. So in the iPhone user's case, it was airdrop or nothing. The picture was important enough to ask for but not important enough to spend an extra thirty seconds dictating a email address. The picture has more detail than just the license plate. It also had the car make, model, condition, road, position, and metadata. However, I'm not sure the legality (chain of custody, etc) of someone's hastily shot picture of a car driving when dealing with a hit-and-run. Better to have and not need though.
- nickthegreek 3y agohappy acquaintances that are more likely to include you in social activities.
- lgas 3y agoReally? I have an iphone but I have friends with android and have never noticed any impediments to texting them... or them me?
- nickthegreek 3y agoDo you guys send media? Group texts with younger cohorts can be filled with gifs, videos, live images, and just regular pics. All of which look like trash when using MMS. This greatly lowers the quality and value of the group chat. People might then remake a group chat without the android user to send the media, and then people just start talking in that group chat and the other dies. While it might not affect you personally, do know that other people behave this way.
- goosedragons 3y agoBetter group chats, higher quality images and videos, the reaction instead of "Loved an image" or whatever.
- dwaltrip 3y agoiMessage features not present in MMS: * Reactions * Threaded replies (1 level deep) * You can name group chats and give them a custom image / icon (makes it easier find a group in the list). The name and image is applied for everyone in the group, making it a social thing * You can add / remove someone to a group without having to create an entirely new group chat * higher quality images / videos * works over wifi, without a cell signal * blue bubbles (purely aesthetic, no functional difference, but some people treat it as a status symbol) ——— I really don’t like the lock-in / network effect, but I get why it exists. It’d be nice if a common standard somehow became widespread. Note: It seems reactions are sort of working across platform in recent months? Not sure the latest on this.