> To his point, even in the Linux world, DEs have accumulated the bloat of features True, and if you want lean and mean, look at OpenBSD or NetBSD. Both are v

> To his point, even in the Linux world, DEs have accumulated the bloat of features True, and if you want lean and mean, look at OpenBSD or NetBSD. Both are very tight. > Is there a WM out there that can do the basic quality-of-life functions of today's DEs? fvwm is your friend, it can do just about anything, but for things that need root, add entries to sudoers similar to: YOURID ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: shutdown -h now or for doas(1): permit nopass YOURID as root cmd shutdown -h now Then add a menu pick to exec sudo|doas shutdown -h now You may want to add shutdown's path to whatever it is on your distro.