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> Good argument, especially since many intangible goods, such as MP3 files, are non-rivalrous and non-excludable. so the deeper question is 'what does it mean

by chii 3y ago

> Good argument, especially since many intangible goods, such as MP3 files, are non-rivalrous and non-excludable. so the deeper question is 'what does it mean to own something'. For a physical good, it's fairly straight forward. For a digital good that can be copied infinitely and perfectly, it's not. The current definition of ownership seems to be broken down into a set of "rights". Sharing it with somebody else is one such right. So when you purchase an mp3 off a store, you're purchasing not the ownership, but the rights to listen to it. More importantly, you're not purchasing the rights to share it with somebody. But the idea of the song - whatever that might be - is not a right given to the owner to be sold (at least not currently). Therefore, someone who purchased the right to listen to the song _should_ be allowed to learn the idea of the song, and reproduce the idea in another form.

musicale 3y ago
> More importantly, you're not purchasing the rights to share it with somebody As I understand it, the Audio Home Recording act legalized mix tapes and mixes on DAT and "music" CD-R media. It's why "music" CD-Rs cost more (the DART royalty.) In fact Apple still provides software (Music/iTunes) that allows you to burn purchased songs from the iTunes Store onto CDs: https://support.apple.com/guide/music/intro-to-burning-cds-and-dvds-mus03854c438/ https://support.apple.com/guide/music/intro-to-burning-cds-a... Initially they hadplaced limits on how many times you could burn the same song, but Apple removed the restrictions and eventually upgraded all of iTunes to DRM-free (but watermarked) iTunes Plus in 2009. Unfortunately it does not support burning "rented" songs from Apple Music or Spotify. I guess that's what Audio Hijack is for. And sadly iTunes never got an upgrade to a lossless format while Apple Music streaming did. I guess that's a good reason to buy tracks from other sources.
- chii 3y ago
  Those mix tapes or CD-R burned tracks aren't meant for distribution, but for personal consumption imho. If you tried selling mix tapes, i think it would constitute a copyright infringement.

by chii 3y ago

musicale 3y ago

> More importantly, you're not purchasing the rights to share it with somebody As I understand it, the Audio Home Recording act legalized mix tapes and mixes on DAT and "music" CD-R media. It's why "music" CD-Rs cost more (the DART royalty.) In fact Apple still provides software (Music/iTunes) that allows you to burn purchased songs from the iTunes Store onto CDs: https://support.apple.com/guide/music/intro-to-burning-cds-and-dvds-mus03854c438/ https://support.apple.com/guide/music/intro-to-burning-cds-a... Initially they hadplaced limits on how many times you could burn the same song, but Apple removed the restrictions and eventually upgraded all of iTunes to DRM-free (but watermarked) iTunes Plus in 2009. Unfortunately it does not support burning "rented" songs from Apple Music or Spotify. I guess that's what Audio Hijack is for. And sadly iTunes never got an upgrade to a lossless format while Apple Music streaming did. I guess that's a good reason to buy tracks from other sources.

chii 3y ago
Those mix tapes or CD-R burned tracks aren't meant for distribution, but for personal consumption imho. If you tried selling mix tapes, i think it would constitute a copyright infringement.