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There was a great article on this recently that cuts through the EU’s dressing: EU AI Act To Target US Open Source Software https://technomancers.ai/eu-ai-act

There was a great article on this recently that cuts through the EU’s dressing: EU AI Act To Target US Open Source Software https://technomancers.ai/eu-ai-act-to-target-us-open-source-software/ https://technomancers.ai/eu-ai-act-to-target-us-open-source-... TLDR it imposes ridiculous constraints on github and open source developers

rover0 3y ago
That site has some questionalble views, for example https://technomancers.ai/pardon-elizabeth-holmes/ https://technomancers.ai/pardon-elizabeth-holmes/
- moffkalast 3y ago
  Well the draft proposal it references seems official, I haven't skimmed through it yet to see if it checks out or not: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2014_2019/plmrep/COMMITTEES/CJ40/DV/2023/05-11/ConsolidatedCA_IMCOLIBE_AI_ACT_EN.pdf https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2014_2019/plmrep/COM...
- nonethewiser 3y ago
  This seems like an ad hominem. Why not engage with the content of the artcicle before hand waving it away?
  - thr-nrg 3y ago
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- Myrmornis 3y ago
  I hope all of us have some questionable views!
- miohtama 3y ago
  Also the post itself has some factual errors.
mrtksn 3y ago
I don't know, my impression is that this is written by someone who doesn't understand how law works and making hyperbolic assumptions through cherrypicking. I recall a similar panic and outrage when GDPR was introduced, claiming that it will bankrupt startups and small projects etc. The EU stuff is usually against large corporations who pose systematic risks. Think about how TikTok makes the US freak out about China spying and manipulations, for EU it's the the same thing but include Facebook and all other large social media too(because American corporations are foreign in Europe like TikTok is foreign in USA). US considers banning TikTok, EU's approach is to regulate how data is processed and used in order to keep open market and mitigate risks. So as a rule of thumb, Europol doesn't knock on your door when you train a model on data that doesn't meet the requirements. This is probably designed to make countries introduce laws which will hold Google/OpenAI etc. accountable for their services so they can't just shrug and say "ouppsy, it's not our fault the AI did it". I'm sorry to pop the alarmist narrative, but this is not the legislation which is going to "get you".
- nforgerit 3y ago
  We've been there with GDPR. It didn't help creating the level playing field they officially wanted to achieve. BigTech has law departments whilst local tech startups have to deal with legal battles initiated by third-class legal firms crawling the web. They just end up making their local tech entrepreneurs flee to US/UK.
  - mrtksn 3y ago
    > They just end up making their local tech entrepreneurs flee to US/UK. Really? Which startups flee due to GDPR? In my experience as a user, I now have option to download my data and know what's collected about me. I like it.
    - nforgerit 3y ago
      Most prominent recent heads-up was BionTech who decided to start a "Strategic Partnership" with the UK government for their research. [0] https://investors.biontech.de/news-releases/news-release-details/biontech-announces-strategic-partnership-uk-government-provide https://investors.biontech.de/news-releases/news-release-det...
reedciccio 3y ago
A much better analysis from a qualified researcher https://openfuture.eu/blog/undermining-the-foundation-of-open-source-ai/ https://openfuture.eu/blog/undermining-the-foundation-of-ope...

rover0 3y ago

That site has some questionalble views, for example https://technomancers.ai/pardon-elizabeth-holmes/ https://technomancers.ai/pardon-elizabeth-holmes/

moffkalast 3y ago
Well the draft proposal it references seems official, I haven't skimmed through it yet to see if it checks out or not: https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2014_2019/plmrep/COMMITTEES/CJ40/DV/2023/05-11/ConsolidatedCA_IMCOLIBE_AI_ACT_EN.pdf https://www.europarl.europa.eu/meetdocs/2014_2019/plmrep/COM...
nonethewiser 3y ago
This seems like an ad hominem. Why not engage with the content of the artcicle before hand waving it away?
- thr-nrg 3y ago
  [flagged]
Myrmornis 3y ago
I hope all of us have some questionable views!
miohtama 3y ago
Also the post itself has some factual errors.

mrtksn 3y ago

I don't know, my impression is that this is written by someone who doesn't understand how law works and making hyperbolic assumptions through cherrypicking. I recall a similar panic and outrage when GDPR was introduced, claiming that it will bankrupt startups and small projects etc. The EU stuff is usually against large corporations who pose systematic risks. Think about how TikTok makes the US freak out about China spying and manipulations, for EU it's the the same thing but include Facebook and all other large social media too(because American corporations are foreign in Europe like TikTok is foreign in USA). US considers banning TikTok, EU's approach is to regulate how data is processed and used in order to keep open market and mitigate risks. So as a rule of thumb, Europol doesn't knock on your door when you train a model on data that doesn't meet the requirements. This is probably designed to make countries introduce laws which will hold Google/OpenAI etc. accountable for their services so they can't just shrug and say "ouppsy, it's not our fault the AI did it". I'm sorry to pop the alarmist narrative, but this is not the legislation which is going to "get you".

nforgerit 3y ago
We've been there with GDPR. It didn't help creating the level playing field they officially wanted to achieve. BigTech has law departments whilst local tech startups have to deal with legal battles initiated by third-class legal firms crawling the web. They just end up making their local tech entrepreneurs flee to US/UK.
- mrtksn 3y ago
  > They just end up making their local tech entrepreneurs flee to US/UK. Really? Which startups flee due to GDPR? In my experience as a user, I now have option to download my data and know what's collected about me. I like it.
  - nforgerit 3y ago
    Most prominent recent heads-up was BionTech who decided to start a "Strategic Partnership" with the UK government for their research. [0] https://investors.biontech.de/news-releases/news-release-details/biontech-announces-strategic-partnership-uk-government-provide https://investors.biontech.de/news-releases/news-release-det...

reedciccio 3y ago

A much better analysis from a qualified researcher https://openfuture.eu/blog/undermining-the-foundation-of-open-source-ai/ https://openfuture.eu/blog/undermining-the-foundation-of-ope...