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> To expound, this just seems like a power grab to me, to "lock in" the lead and keep AI controlled by a small number of corporations that can afford to license

> To expound, this just seems like a power grab to me, to "lock in" the lead and keep AI controlled by a small number of corporations that can afford to license and operate the technologies. If you actually watch the entire session, Altman does address that and recommend to Congress that regulations 1) not be applied to small startups, individual researchers, or open source, and 2) that they not be done in such a way as to lock in a few big vendors. Some of the Senators on the panel also expressed concern about #2.

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paulddraper 3y ago
That's what is said...
chasd00 3y ago
> not be applied to small startups how will that work? Isn't OpenAI itself a small startup? I don't see how they can regulate AI at all. Sure, the resources required to push the limits are high right now but hardware is constantly improving and getting cheaper. I can take the GPUs out of my kids computers and start doing fairly serious AI work myself. Do i need a license? The cat is out of the bag, there's no stopping it now.
api 3y ago
That would make the regulations fairly pointless unless you think only mega-corps will ever be able to afford the compute for these things. Compute continues to get cheaper and cheaper. We have not hit the physics wall yet on that. That and if someone cracks efficient distributed training in a swarm type configuration then you could train models Seti@Home style. Lots of people would be happy to leave a gaming PC on to help create open source LLMs. The data requirements might be big but I just got gigabit fiber installed in my house so that barrier is vanishing too.
- nullsense 3y ago
  The other day someone offered up their 200x GPU crypto mining cluster to train uncensored models after the incident on HuggingFace where someone threatened to get the uploader of the uncensored models fired citing safety issues.
  - chasd00 3y ago
    That’s bizarre, what is unsafe about an uncensored LLM? Or I guess the same question in a different way, how does censoring an LLM make it safe? I could see an uncensored LLM being bad PR for a company but unsafe? How?
    - nullsense 3y ago
      That individual in particular was pushing some left-wing talking points. Though the other day Yuval Noah Harari gave a great talk on the potential threat to democracy - https://youtu.be/LWiM-LuRe6w https://youtu.be/LWiM-LuRe6w
- zamnos 3y ago
  Shit, vast.ai will pay you right now for access to your gaming PC's GPU

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paulddraper 3y ago

That's what is said...

chasd00 3y ago

> not be applied to small startups how will that work? Isn't OpenAI itself a small startup? I don't see how they can regulate AI at all. Sure, the resources required to push the limits are high right now but hardware is constantly improving and getting cheaper. I can take the GPUs out of my kids computers and start doing fairly serious AI work myself. Do i need a license? The cat is out of the bag, there's no stopping it now.

api 3y ago

That would make the regulations fairly pointless unless you think only mega-corps will ever be able to afford the compute for these things. Compute continues to get cheaper and cheaper. We have not hit the physics wall yet on that. That and if someone cracks efficient distributed training in a swarm type configuration then you could train models Seti@Home style. Lots of people would be happy to leave a gaming PC on to help create open source LLMs. The data requirements might be big but I just got gigabit fiber installed in my house so that barrier is vanishing too.

nullsense 3y ago
The other day someone offered up their 200x GPU crypto mining cluster to train uncensored models after the incident on HuggingFace where someone threatened to get the uploader of the uncensored models fired citing safety issues.
- chasd00 3y ago
  That’s bizarre, what is unsafe about an uncensored LLM? Or I guess the same question in a different way, how does censoring an LLM make it safe? I could see an uncensored LLM being bad PR for a company but unsafe? How?
  - nullsense 3y ago
    That individual in particular was pushing some left-wing talking points. Though the other day Yuval Noah Harari gave a great talk on the potential threat to democracy - https://youtu.be/LWiM-LuRe6w https://youtu.be/LWiM-LuRe6w
zamnos 3y ago
Shit, vast.ai will pay you right now for access to your gaming PC's GPU