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What's stopping you from doing these things? You can still write a php file and upload it to any hoster and it'll work.

by dewey 3y ago

shanebellone 3y ago
"What's stopping you from doing these things?" Exactly this! My personal website is pure html and css on a custom backend. I do not find the combination lacking.
- pprotas 3y ago
  https://shanebellone.com https://shanebellone.com this one?
medion 3y ago
It’s a cultural thing, I don’t mean it literally. The web is cooked now, I have nothing to do with it except some comments on HN. I now work in arts and crafts and have all but rejected technology, I am glad I was there for the golden era!
0xblinq 3y ago
Usually the only thing stopping people to just use a simple, proven tools is other developers looking down at you because you're not using the latest shiny thing.
- seirl 3y ago
  PHP is only "simple" and "proven" in that it has proven countless times that it is simply terrible at everything.
  - dewey 3y ago
    It's not terrible at making it easy to find good people working on it and making money.
  - DamnInteresting 3y ago
    And yet somehow it handily powers over 75% of websites today.[1] [1]: https://w3techs.com/technologies/history_overview/programming_language/ms/y https://w3techs.com/technologies/history_overview/programmin...
  - mejutoco 3y ago
    I am not a big fan of PHP, but I remember generating CSS with it. Everybody found that _completely unacceptable_. Now most tools generate CSS in JS and mix structure and styling, and behaviour (using components). Fashion definitely has a strong influence on devs.
  - 0xblinq 3y ago
    The worst developers (as in bad practices, poor code quality, communication problems, zero care for product and just focus on tech, and extreme over or under engineering solutions) that I've found in my 20 year career also happened to be the ones blaming their tools instead of looking at their own practices, skills and beliefs. Not saying this is the case because I don't know you, but that's been the common theme for a long time. It's like hearing a carpenter complaining their hammer is just not good and nobody should use hammers and they should instead use a screwdriver because everyone knows how bad and outdated hammers are.

What's stopping you from doing these things? You can still write a php file and upload it to any hoster and it'll work.

by dewey 3y ago

What's stopping you from doing these things? You can still write a php file and upload it to any hoster and it'll work.

"What's stopping you from doing these things?" Exactly this! My personal website is pure html and css on a custom backend. I do not find the combination lacking.

pprotas 3y ago
https://shanebellone.com https://shanebellone.com this one?

medion 3y ago

It’s a cultural thing, I don’t mean it literally. The web is cooked now, I have nothing to do with it except some comments on HN. I now work in arts and crafts and have all but rejected technology, I am glad I was there for the golden era!

0xblinq 3y ago

Usually the only thing stopping people to just use a simple, proven tools is other developers looking down at you because you're not using the latest shiny thing.

seirl 3y ago
PHP is only "simple" and "proven" in that it has proven countless times that it is simply terrible at everything.
- dewey 3y ago
  It's not terrible at making it easy to find good people working on it and making money.
- DamnInteresting 3y ago
  And yet somehow it handily powers over 75% of websites today.[1] [1]: https://w3techs.com/technologies/history_overview/programming_language/ms/y https://w3techs.com/technologies/history_overview/programmin...
- mejutoco 3y ago
  I am not a big fan of PHP, but I remember generating CSS with it. Everybody found that _completely unacceptable_. Now most tools generate CSS in JS and mix structure and styling, and behaviour (using components). Fashion definitely has a strong influence on devs.
- 0xblinq 3y ago
  The worst developers (as in bad practices, poor code quality, communication problems, zero care for product and just focus on tech, and extreme over or under engineering solutions) that I've found in my 20 year career also happened to be the ones blaming their tools instead of looking at their own practices, skills and beliefs. Not saying this is the case because I don't know you, but that's been the common theme for a long time. It's like hearing a carpenter complaining their hammer is just not good and nobody should use hammers and they should instead use a screwdriver because everyone knows how bad and outdated hammers are.