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Show HN: Use ChatGPT, Bing, Bard and Claude in One App

138 points by wonderfuly 3y ago

tikkun 3y ago
Looks nice. Does anyone know of a tool for using Claude-100k? I don't have API access yet.
- famouswaffles 3y ago
  Poe.com has Claude-inatant-100k (but not Claude-plus-100k yet) but you need to be a paying subscriber to use it
  - wonderfuly 3y ago
    That's right, and you can use that within ChatHub
- r_thambapillai 3y ago
  if you're using it for business purposes you can use credal.ai (disclaimer: I am the founder)
- wantsanagent 3y ago
  https://nat.dev/compare https://nat.dev/compare
mg 3y ago
In a similar vain, I provide this tool to talk to all free and open LLMs which don't need a login: https://www.gnod.com/search/ai https://www.gnod.com/search/ai Feedback is welcome. So far I know about 3. I would expect there to be more and more over time. I will keep adding them to the page.
- digging 3y ago
  I was very confused when I saw "gnod.com". I thought my favorite krautrock band was getting into the AI space. edit: This seems to just be links to other search engines... is there any actual benefit to using this site rather than visiting the engines directly?
  - mg 3y ago
    The benefit is that you don't have to type (or paste) your question for every engine you want to try. You can also click on "more engines" and add Google or whichever engine you usually use and make it your one-stop-dashboard to search/ask the web.
- aorth 3y ago
  I expected this to be something like https://chat.lmsys.org https://chat.lmsys.org, but you are just redirecting to third-party sites.
- s0ulphire 3y ago
  FYI the word you're lookin for is 'vein' :) the other type means conceited/narcissistic.
stevesearer 3y ago
This kind of reminds me of the old web IM interface Meebo, but instead of having your chats with humans, you have AI bot chats. One stylistic thing that I like about ChatGPT vs Bard's web interface for code is that way it progressively types compared to the instant display. I find that I am able to read the code and get some learning of what it is doing as it is typing compared to reading a big block after the fact.
- PaulWaldman 3y ago
  Similar, this kinda reminds using Excite, Yahoo, and AltaVista.
- TeMPOraL 3y ago
  Huh. I hate the streaming mode of ChatGPT. In my experience, any UI that adopts it ends up feeling slow and sluggish for no apparent reason. Plus, I often find myself looking at the text as it appears, and wondering if I should press the "Stop" button, or will it say something useful in the two paragraphs I expect to still follow. Alas, I use the streaming mode, because it gives an indicator that the connection to the model is still live, and you can kind of estimate how much longer you'll have to wait for the reply to end. With "batched" mode, you just sit there for anywhere between few seconds and few minutes, wondering if it's still generating response, or if the API connection broke again.
  - stevesearer 3y ago
    When it streams too slowly it is also quite annoying, but when it is the right speed I really enjoy it. It can also be annoying when I made request a small change and it rewrites the entire block of code compared to only displaying the section I want. I think I could prompt it better in those cases by saying "only show me the code changes" though.
    - TeMPOraL 3y ago
      I'm working on relevant prompts. I've managed to get it to output edits a few times, but most of the time it does ignore my requests to just give me the changes. I think it's mostly my laziness. I found GPT-4 with default system message good enough for most use cases, so I tend to just switch over to it, start a new conversation, and blurt my request. Setting specialized "characters" for my requests? Too much hassle. Typing in a proper, explicit request to just give me diffs? Too much writing, breaks flow. Ironically, I'm both too lazy for giving GPT-4 this kind of editing guidance, while I'm also wasting too much time catering to conversational style.
rckrd 3y ago
Here's mine that runs entirely in the browser and doesn't send any data to a server[1] [1] https://chat.matt-rickard.com https://chat.matt-rickard.com
- ChikkaChiChi 3y ago
  This only runs Vicuna.
- louis-lau 3y ago
  How is this in any way comparable to the project in the OP?
  - andirk 3y ago
    it says chat in the subdomain.
- wonderfuly 3y ago
  Nice UI though.
Zaheer 3y ago
Poe (made by Quora) does this as well for anyone that wants an iOS app: https://poe.com/ https://poe.com/
- petrusnonius 3y ago
  Not sure what their “moat” is..
  - jazzyjackson 3y ago
    They got a subscription out of me, one price for GPT4 and Claude+ 100k May not be a moat, but just a velocity thing, I haven't felt a need to switch out of fomo. You can also "create a bot" with a custom prompt and share it - the social features of sharing/bookmarking snippets of conversations is pretty fun.
  - dmix 3y ago
    Why is everyone so obsessed with "moat"s every time a new GPT-type service or more general AI product pops up on HN? Is that just a meme response now or is there more to it? The market (and technology) is very immature. We have no idea what potential usecases, integrations, or models will ultimately dominate. Even if there is a single one-model-to-rule-them-all there is still going to be potential for smaller/almost-as-good models to be succession by doing direct integrations with various business or B2C usecases. The chatbot UI is just one potential usecase that's popular now. That might have dominance in pure brand recognition and userbase, but it's not like they have network-effects or other lock-in either (besides maybe custom API integrations).
    - winstonprivacy 3y ago
      Because if there's no moat, then the offer has extremely limited viability. Try creating your own browser and see how well it does.
      - brookst 3y ago
        But why do you care? It’s like debating whether “the internet” is a moat, in 1990. Tech is never a moat. That’s not new or interesting. Business processes can be, brand can be, scale can be. And it is far far far far far far too early to even think about moats in the AI business.
petrusnonius 3y ago
Looks great. I really hope a Firefox plugin becomes available soon!
_xnmw 3y ago
Uh, I just use a window manager.
seanhunter 3y ago
How many "Show HN" posts does one app need? This has knocked up about 5 so far.
TomatoTomato 3y ago
Similar, more customizable option is ChatALL: https://github.com/sunner/ChatALL https://github.com/sunner/ChatALL README says they were inspired by ChatHub
- hackernewds 3y ago
  such a difference a small UI change can make. they basically stole the idea though
ulrischa 3y ago
Will there be something like a meta search for ai like meta search in the 00s?
- zimmund 3y ago
  It reminded me of the same thing. I remember how back before Google dominated the market I used Metacrawler (which surprisingly still exists, but it's a completely different site now)
swyx 3y ago
i think the best way to consume these things is a menubar app that can be brought up quickly with a shortcut. i recently released https://github.com/smol-ai/menubar https://github.com/smol-ai/menubar which i personally use!
kingrolo 3y ago
I was thinking that the current chatbot showdown reminds me of the time before Google won the search wars. There were sites like this that had several search engines side by side in frames so you could compare the results returned from all of them at once. Will be really interesting to see how all of this plays out.
- fooker 3y ago
  Thanks for saying this! It grinds my gears a little bit when people pretend that Google came out of nowhere and invented a new paradigm for accessing information and making money by selling ads there. It was a well recognized problem they solved with Page rank!
Dowwie 3y ago
The Chrome extension of ChatHub requested extensive permissions related to poe.com services
berjin 3y ago
It reminds me of DogPile which used to be a search engine of search engines in the 90s.
- andirk 3y ago
  Or Mamma.com , "the mother of all search engines!" Although these days it can't even find DogPile https://mamma.com/search/dogpile https://mamma.com/search/dogpile .

138 points by wonderfuly 3y ago

tikkun 3y ago

Looks nice. Does anyone know of a tool for using Claude-100k? I don't have API access yet.

famouswaffles 3y ago
Poe.com has Claude-inatant-100k (but not Claude-plus-100k yet) but you need to be a paying subscriber to use it
- wonderfuly 3y ago
  That's right, and you can use that within ChatHub
r_thambapillai 3y ago
if you're using it for business purposes you can use credal.ai (disclaimer: I am the founder)
wantsanagent 3y ago
https://nat.dev/compare https://nat.dev/compare

mg 3y ago

In a similar vain, I provide this tool to talk to all free and open LLMs which don't need a login: https://www.gnod.com/search/ai https://www.gnod.com/search/ai Feedback is welcome. So far I know about 3. I would expect there to be more and more over time. I will keep adding them to the page.

digging 3y ago
I was very confused when I saw "gnod.com". I thought my favorite krautrock band was getting into the AI space. edit: This seems to just be links to other search engines... is there any actual benefit to using this site rather than visiting the engines directly?
- mg 3y ago
  The benefit is that you don't have to type (or paste) your question for every engine you want to try. You can also click on "more engines" and add Google or whichever engine you usually use and make it your one-stop-dashboard to search/ask the web.
aorth 3y ago
I expected this to be something like https://chat.lmsys.org https://chat.lmsys.org, but you are just redirecting to third-party sites.
s0ulphire 3y ago
FYI the word you're lookin for is 'vein' :) the other type means conceited/narcissistic.

stevesearer 3y ago

This kind of reminds me of the old web IM interface Meebo, but instead of having your chats with humans, you have AI bot chats. One stylistic thing that I like about ChatGPT vs Bard's web interface for code is that way it progressively types compared to the instant display. I find that I am able to read the code and get some learning of what it is doing as it is typing compared to reading a big block after the fact.

PaulWaldman 3y ago
Similar, this kinda reminds using Excite, Yahoo, and AltaVista.
TeMPOraL 3y ago
Huh. I hate the streaming mode of ChatGPT. In my experience, any UI that adopts it ends up feeling slow and sluggish for no apparent reason. Plus, I often find myself looking at the text as it appears, and wondering if I should press the "Stop" button, or will it say something useful in the two paragraphs I expect to still follow. Alas, I use the streaming mode, because it gives an indicator that the connection to the model is still live, and you can kind of estimate how much longer you'll have to wait for the reply to end. With "batched" mode, you just sit there for anywhere between few seconds and few minutes, wondering if it's still generating response, or if the API connection broke again.
- stevesearer 3y ago
  When it streams too slowly it is also quite annoying, but when it is the right speed I really enjoy it. It can also be annoying when I made request a small change and it rewrites the entire block of code compared to only displaying the section I want. I think I could prompt it better in those cases by saying "only show me the code changes" though.
  - TeMPOraL 3y ago
    I'm working on relevant prompts. I've managed to get it to output edits a few times, but most of the time it does ignore my requests to just give me the changes. I think it's mostly my laziness. I found GPT-4 with default system message good enough for most use cases, so I tend to just switch over to it, start a new conversation, and blurt my request. Setting specialized "characters" for my requests? Too much hassle. Typing in a proper, explicit request to just give me diffs? Too much writing, breaks flow. Ironically, I'm both too lazy for giving GPT-4 this kind of editing guidance, while I'm also wasting too much time catering to conversational style.

rckrd 3y ago

Here's mine that runs entirely in the browser and doesn't send any data to a server[1] [1] https://chat.matt-rickard.com https://chat.matt-rickard.com

ChikkaChiChi 3y ago
This only runs Vicuna.
louis-lau 3y ago
How is this in any way comparable to the project in the OP?
- andirk 3y ago
  it says chat in the subdomain.
wonderfuly 3y ago
Nice UI though.

Zaheer 3y ago

Poe (made by Quora) does this as well for anyone that wants an iOS app: https://poe.com/ https://poe.com/

petrusnonius 3y ago
Not sure what their “moat” is..
- jazzyjackson 3y ago
  They got a subscription out of me, one price for GPT4 and Claude+ 100k May not be a moat, but just a velocity thing, I haven't felt a need to switch out of fomo. You can also "create a bot" with a custom prompt and share it - the social features of sharing/bookmarking snippets of conversations is pretty fun.
- dmix 3y ago
  Why is everyone so obsessed with "moat"s every time a new GPT-type service or more general AI product pops up on HN? Is that just a meme response now or is there more to it? The market (and technology) is very immature. We have no idea what potential usecases, integrations, or models will ultimately dominate. Even if there is a single one-model-to-rule-them-all there is still going to be potential for smaller/almost-as-good models to be succession by doing direct integrations with various business or B2C usecases. The chatbot UI is just one potential usecase that's popular now. That might have dominance in pure brand recognition and userbase, but it's not like they have network-effects or other lock-in either (besides maybe custom API integrations).
  - winstonprivacy 3y ago
    Because if there's no moat, then the offer has extremely limited viability. Try creating your own browser and see how well it does.
    - brookst 3y ago
      But why do you care? It’s like debating whether “the internet” is a moat, in 1990. Tech is never a moat. That’s not new or interesting. Business processes can be, brand can be, scale can be. And it is far far far far far far too early to even think about moats in the AI business.

petrusnonius 3y ago

Looks great. I really hope a Firefox plugin becomes available soon!

_xnmw 3y ago

Uh, I just use a window manager.

seanhunter 3y ago

How many "Show HN" posts does one app need? This has knocked up about 5 so far.

TomatoTomato 3y ago

Similar, more customizable option is ChatALL: https://github.com/sunner/ChatALL https://github.com/sunner/ChatALL README says they were inspired by ChatHub

hackernewds 3y ago
such a difference a small UI change can make. they basically stole the idea though

ulrischa 3y ago

Will there be something like a meta search for ai like meta search in the 00s?

zimmund 3y ago
It reminded me of the same thing. I remember how back before Google dominated the market I used Metacrawler (which surprisingly still exists, but it's a completely different site now)

swyx 3y ago

i think the best way to consume these things is a menubar app that can be brought up quickly with a shortcut. i recently released https://github.com/smol-ai/menubar https://github.com/smol-ai/menubar which i personally use!

kingrolo 3y ago

I was thinking that the current chatbot showdown reminds me of the time before Google won the search wars. There were sites like this that had several search engines side by side in frames so you could compare the results returned from all of them at once. Will be really interesting to see how all of this plays out.

fooker 3y ago
Thanks for saying this! It grinds my gears a little bit when people pretend that Google came out of nowhere and invented a new paradigm for accessing information and making money by selling ads there. It was a well recognized problem they solved with Page rank!

Dowwie 3y ago

The Chrome extension of ChatHub requested extensive permissions related to poe.com services

berjin 3y ago

It reminds me of DogPile which used to be a search engine of search engines in the 90s.

andirk 3y ago
Or Mamma.com , "the mother of all search engines!" Although these days it can't even find DogPile https://mamma.com/search/dogpile https://mamma.com/search/dogpile .